Nah, that computer thing is never going to catch on :-) Bob K0NR
On 1/24/2011 7:10 PM, Jack/W6NF wrote: > Yes, I agree with Tim wholeheartedly. > > Paper cards are nice (I have a few from my Novice days in 1957) but I, like > many others, cannot afford the expense. I *do* QSL 100% when a card is sent > to me but LoTW is fine, too. To summarily reject LoTW, to invoke Mr. Spock, > not logical ;>) > > BTW, I use N1MM logger for all contests and ACLog for everything > else...painless, easy and I can use the logging program on CW to cover for > my rotten fist :>) > > 73, > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Tim Marek<[email protected]> wrote: > >> John and the rest of you LOTW doubters... >> >> The costs to use LOTW for VUCC, DXCC, or WAS contact credits IS NOTHING >> compared to the time, effort and money needed to collect cards the old >> fashioned way! At near a buck a card domestically (Over 2$ Internationally) >> for the stamps to send them and as well as a SASE for their return.... all >> the waiting.... Lost or stolen mail, People who NEVER reply, followed by >> dealing with the cards after their collected, the hand sorting and filling >> in paper forms... what a royal pain and more importantly... a very >> inneficient way to do things... >> >> With the new LOTW system, you simply upload your logs, wait for them to >> cross confirm with other uploaded logs, spend less than 20 cents per QSO to >> INSTANTLY use those QSL credits for awards, with little muss or fuss... >> >> I really dont see what the problems is.... Its faster, safer, cheaper, and >> your log data is backed up forever.... Talk about a lasting legacy of your >> efforts! >> >> Compared to the OLD FASHIONED way of handling the laborious chore of >> QSLing, LOTW is a God send saving me much time, money, and alot of hand >> writing that I truly hate. (Try living in a rare state and you will >> understand) >> >> As one who has personally activated 57 grids at one time or another (Alot >> of them RARE), there is now a incentive to sort out and upload all those >> logs from the past 20 years. Not only will it help others who need those >> rare grids (CM86, CM95, CM96, CN90, CN91, CN92, DN00, DN10, DN11, DN20, >> DM07, DM17, DM18, DM19, DM27, DM28, and DM29 just to name a few) but... I >> can now file for additional 6M VUCC's from several of those grids as they >> were June Contest efforts from tall mountains with large antennas and KW >> power where more than 100 Grids was easily accomplished... >> >> Think about it... "Nothing Is Free"... the prices they ask are reasonable, >> and once uploaded who better to back up your logs than those whom you apply >> to for the awards! >> >> Personally, I dont understant why everyone isn't getting setup right now to >> dump their logs online to (at the very least protect those rare and precious >> contacts from being lost forever) and collect those contact credits w/o >> lifting a pen to paper or licking a single stamp... >> >> 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09nm.... sk >> >> PS: I have been pushing LOTW for years to make this happen. Its not >> perfect, but compared to the old ways, its a VAST IMPROVEMENT! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]>; "Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org"<[email protected]>; >> "'VHF REFLECTOR'"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:07 PM >> Subject: [VHF] Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs >> >> >> >> I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter VUCCs, >>> but given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get an endorsement >>> for an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this new insane fee schedule >>> doesn't kill VUCC submissions. I think AMSAT awards will be getting much >>> more popular. 73s John AA5JG >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From:<[email protected]> >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM >>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs >>> >>>> Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. However, I >>>> did not see what happens with LOTW submisions. >>>> If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer award >>>> insurance as well as equipment insurance. Just a thought. :>) >>>> Merle, AA4QE >>>> >>> ------ >> Submissions: [email protected] >> Subscription/removal requests: [email protected] >> Human list administrator: [email protected] >> List rules and information: http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/ >> > > _______________________________________________ Sent via [email protected]. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
