I have a feeling that if a ESA member nation AMSAT group had a cubesat ready to 
fly, it might be able to go. This situation is part of the Fox plan as I 
understand it, to build more than one satellite, and have a "hot spare" for 
such an opportunity.

73, Drew KO4MA

PS Andy, we do a little better than every 5 years. If you look at DO-64, 
ARISSat-1, SO-67 and HO-68, we've averaged one a year over the past 4 years.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefan Wagener <[email protected]>
>Sent: Dec 8, 2011 10:17 AM
>To: Andy Kellner <[email protected]>
>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
>
>Hi Andreas,
>
>very simple, politics.
>
>ITAR is killing AMSAT-NA and AMSAT-DL's  leadership has openly
>denouced Cubesats. So two of the biggest AMSATs either can't or don't
>want to. Talk about a pathetic situation for our community.
>
>Stefan VE4NSA
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Andy Kellner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'll be darned. 9 (nine!) cubesats on board of this launch vehicle and the 
>> whole world wide amateur radio community has major problems finding somebody 
>> to launch 1 every 5 years ?
>> Whats wrong with this picture ? I would like to find out why ESA for example 
>> has no problems launching the cubesats by the dozend  (for free i bet you),
>> but refuse to carry just one for us. Does somebody has ESA's email address 
>> ?  :) Is it really all about the educational aspect of things ? We can use 
>> that sales pitch, too.
>>
>>
>> Andreas - VK4HHH
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Trevor . <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2011 9:56 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LARES To Test Einstein's Theory
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/12/11, Bob- W7LRD <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> can't we squeeze a little bird in there?
>>
>> They'll be some CubeSat's on the launch I believe going into a 1500 by 300 
>> km orbit see
>>
>> http://www.esa.int/esaMI/Education/SEM3N03MDAF_0.html
>>
>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>>
>>
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