The nasabare.txt file is created from the 2-line elements bulletins by a little 
C program I wrote called NASAWASH. 
http://www.mustbeart.com/software/nasawash.html

NASAWASH was written to maximize the compatibility of its output. Its main 
purpose is to remove any text that isn't part of the two-line element sets, and 
generate a "clean" file that any program will accept as a completely valid 
stream of two-line element sets.

One of the compatibility issues, historically, has been treatment of "+" plus 
signs in the calculation of the checksum. Some programs would ignore plus 
signs, and others would add 2 to the checksum for each plus sign. These two 
methods are not compatible, except for element sets that don't contain any plus 
signs. That's why NASAWASH strips them out.

To create nasabare.txt on the AMSAT server, NASAWASH starts with the text of 
the AMSAT bulletin in 2-line format, exactly as emailed out to the KEPS mailing 
list. I notice that the plus signs are also missing from the elements in the 
KEPS bulletins, very likely for the same reason. I do not know what exact 
procedure Ray Hoad uses in generating the bulletins.

Did you encounter a compatibility problem with some program as a result of the 
missing plus signs? I'd be interested in more details.

73  -Paul
[email protected]


On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:

> I notice that the AMSAT TLE data file
> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt)
> uses what appears to be a "non-standard" format for the BSTAR drag
> value in some of the satellites (currently RS-30 HO-68 and SRMSAT).
> 
> When the drag value is 0 the entry in the AMSAT files is 00000 0 rather than
> the more "standard" 00000+0. A drag value of 0 is certainly a curiosity in
> itself.
> 
> I realize that we live in a world where a "standard" 8 foot 2 x 4 is 8 feet
> long but not
> 2 inches by 4 inches so there are possibly many "standards" for TLE data.
> 
> I solved the problem I was having by switching to
> (http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt).
> I am still curious as to why the AMSAT file is different. Does AMSAT get
> their data
> from a different source or did AMSAT create their own standard for
> presenting the data.
> 
> thanks,  W9KE tom ...
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