Hi Kevin...look out for the Icom "twins", the IC-271a/471a. I used such a set 
up for years. Probably not much more that a couple of hundred bucks apiece. 
They or a similar variant can be had for really quite reasonable, via hamfest, 
ebay etc. Not computer useable, you have to use that "big" knob. My first 
antennas were home brewed quagis with a real cheapie rotor with the antennas 
tilted up about 20 degrees. there 
there's always a way! 

73 Bob W7LRD 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Deane" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:58:46 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite's 


I have been following most of the recent post's on Sat usage and I gather the 
main topic was the lack of use on the linear bird's. I think working the FM 
sat's (or lack of) are always fun and always have been. I am dying to work AO-7 
for sure and VO-52, FO-29 but gave up trying to do so without the right 
equipment. I tried several times with an FT-857 and presets, heard people many 
time's but could not keep up with tuning and punching button's. Frustration 
overcame my desire to even try, knowing mostly that without the proper rig's I 
was just not going to fulfill my aching for these wondrous long passes with 
more than just a grid exchange. 

Which brings me to the point: Lack of money, you can get on the FM bird's with 
an Arrow and a Hand Held, I get a minute or so on my mobile! So what is the 
cheapest "proper" entry on the linear birds? Full duplex I found very nice on 
the FM sat's though I do not always have that luxury. An 857 run's what 8-900 
buck's and I do not think even two of those would be very good? 

Let's change the topic a bit and ask the elmer's how to help us younger and or 
newer guy's get on the Linear Satellite's instead of reminiscing what once was 
or the lack of use of these great bird's that still live!!! 


Kevin 
KF7MYK 


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