My goal is to run a half watt into I what I hope will be some good antennas. 
We'll know something this spring. 
george wi9i


On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Rich/wa4bue wrote:

> Hi ZAC
> 
> Seems you have the regs down well.
> 
> You modify it is like Home Brew, still must meet to meet FCC specifications.
> 
> The question is why do you need that much pwer for the satellittes?
> 
> You should keep your power down to a minim to communicate so you don't stress 
> the birds.
> 
> 100 watts with a 10dB gain is a lot of ERP!
> 
> R
> W4BUE
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zach Leffke" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:18 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] External Amplifier Legality Questions
> 
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>    I have a question about FCC Rules regarding external amplifiers.  I am 
>> considering re-purposing a wideband commercial amplifier for amateur use as 
>> a final stage for my ground station. The amplifier is capable of producing 
>> about 100W of power between 20 MHz and 500 MHz.  I want to use this amp in 
>> conjunction with coax relays to switch between the 2m band and the 70cm band 
>> depending upon which spacecraft I'm operating.
>> 
>> My questions are as follows:
>> Is it legal to use an amplifier designed for commercial applications in the 
>> Amateur Bands?  This amplifier does not meet spurious signal suppression 
>> requirements, so I plan to use band specific filters after the amp to make 
>> sure I knock any spurs down below the required limits.  Does the amplifier 
>> have to be type certified for use in the amateur bands?
>> 
>> As far as I can tell reading Part 97.315(subsection 3), The amplifier itself 
>> does not need to be type certified if:
>> "(3)The amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator or to a dealer, the 
>> amplifier is purchased in used condition by a dealer, /or the amplifier is 
>> sold to an amateur radio operator for use at that operator's station/. 
>> [emphasis added]"
>> 
>> I'm planning to use it in my amateur station so I don't think it has to be 
>> type certified.  Am I missing something?
>> 
>> Also, The amplifier's 2nd Harmonic is about -30dBc down at 145 MHz. 
>> According to 97.307e:
>> "The mean power of any spurious emission from a station transmitter or 
>> external RF power amplifier transmitting on a frequency between 30--225 MHz 
>> must be at least 60 dB below the mean power of the fundamental."
>> 
>> I'm planning to use a filter with about 40 dB of suppression at 290 MHz (2nd 
>> harmonic), so I get about -70 dB of suppression at the second harmonic, 
>> meeting the emission requirements of 97.307e.
>> 
>> I see no specific spurious signal suppression requirement for the 70cm band. 
>>  The amplifier has similar 2nd Harmonic characteristics and I'm planning to 
>> use a similar filter for the 70cm band so the spurs should be down by about 
>> 70 dB of the fundamental mean power as well.  The only wording I see that 
>> might apply is 97.307c:
>> "All spurious emissions from a station transmitter must be reduced to the 
>> greatest extent practicable. If any spurious emission, including chassis or 
>> power line radiation, causes harmful interference to the reception of 
>> another radio station, the licensee of the interfering amateur station is 
>> required to take steps to eliminate the interference, in accordance with 
>> good engineering practice. "
>> 
>> I'm taking steps to eliminate interference by suppressing the 2nd Harmonic 
>> down about 70dB from the fundamental "in good engineering practice" so I 
>> think I meet all the requirements.  Again, what am I missing?
>> 
>> I've heard of lots of hams re-purposing amplifiers for amateur use without 
>> legal concern, and I think this might be the case for my situation.   I'd 
>> like some advice from those that may have gone down this road in the past. 
>> Any and all feedback from the group on this would be greatly appreciated. If 
>> I'm way off, please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Zach, KJ4QLP
>> 
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