Yes, I would go with that...
the problem is that event-driven systemare pretty complex for such specific things like that... but yeah, ok, it can be done... If you could find a good events system for this and document it, that would be really nice.. I suggest you speak with Sander and Tom and work all together in order to establish this. Make it documented before making it into code...
we'll talk about it after 0.95 is released...

KKRT

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:01:29 -0500, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Please do a lot of thinking before actually working on this. I do not know the protocol code now, but I think the whole thing should be re-designed so it
will only interfere with other code through firing events and handling
events. (i.e. no calls from protocol code to gui code and vice versa)

To do this, some coöperation with the 'new GUI'-team is necessary to make sure both will be compatible. If we don't take this opportunity we will probably
end up not doing the redesign at all.

I have done quite some study about fully event-driven systems, and even coded some in both Java and Objective-C. The principles stay the same in whatever language you're using, only the best way to implement might be different. But
these two languages are fully Object-Oriented (as well as a few others),
which makes implementing event-driven systems really easy.

So I could help to develop a real good schema of events and handlers, as well as document those for developers. Although I don't think I can do much on the actual coding. I would like to, but I don't think I will have the time to do
so. Also I would have to learn what kind of constructs are available in
Tcl/Tk (I really have no idea yet, only found the syntax of the language a real mess until now, by looking at the code), but I will find the docs about
Tcl/Tk soon enough when I only start looking for them.

If you decide to go ahead with this, after 0.95 is out, I'd like to receive
some links to useful information on the protocol. Information about the
current implementation and used events will be in the wiki I assume, so I'll
start digging for such there. If I don't find what I need, I'll just ask
about it then.

Please let me know if you like the idea!

Regards,

Harry

Op zondag 4 december 2005 13:19, schreef Sander Hoentjen:
On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 11:33 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> Hi,
> maybe some readers will believe I want to speak about 0.95 but it's not
> the case...
> I want to inform you that a MSN Messenger 8/Windows Live Messenger will > go out... And guess it... It uses a new protocol !!! We will have to redo
> what we did for MSNP11 !! So crap !! And they add VoIP but with which
> codecs ??? So baaaaaaaad... Will we manage to continue our work ???? aMSN > is so bloated !! Anyway I think we won't publish the MSNP11 version ! We
> will go from MSNP9 to MSNP13 : a huge gap !!
> Phil

Yes i saw it already,
SYN is dropped, instead it uses SOAP for the address list
and there is support for offline messages.. :)
I was going to work on it in a few weeks but if you start before that I
won't, just let me know



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