On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 17:17 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: > Hi all, sorry for answering this late (humm.. thread dates only from > today, so I'm ok :P) but I've been busy lately... > I just saw the thread, as you can see the MSNP12 which was labeled > 'stable' still has bugs (latest known bug is now corrected it seems) and > really, the purpose for 0.95.1 is to fix bugs and get our 0.95 release an > even more stable one.. nothing else.. this means that no, we're not > allowed to enter new features (my email labeled "next release plan" > explains what is accepted and what is not). > we'll have to leave MSNP12 and PSM support for the 0.96 which I'd like > planned for the summer, the 0.95.1 is to get out in a few weeks only, > maybe a month, max.. so it's mainly a "let's fix bugs now!!" I think most > of the things people complained about were already fixed (special chars > bugs is the most important one) and I know Jerome did a great work in > fixing as much bugs he found on the bug report system as possible... > Harry asked that we shouldn't make sure msnp12 is stable and introduce > bugs in msnp9... I'd say don't worry, for now we're still mostly using > msnp9 (I didn't try msnp12 yet) and we're in a "safe fix" mode (if you do > a non-safe fix, please advice us by email) so msnp9 is gonna stay stable.. > ALSO, once we get msnp12 out of the door (for 0.96), we'll completly drop > msnp9, maybe remove its code, so we don't care about it being stable for > long... > About what Yoda asks, answer is simple : at least 3 RC version were > planned in order to get a stable 0.95 release, but then we decided that > aMSN needs to get out of the doors, we don't care about bugs anymore, we > don't have the ressources anymore to fix those bugs.. we still have a 0.95 > TODO list that wasn't finished, but the release had to get out... also, to > make sure an RC release is tested enough, we would have needed to notify > all users of the release, and not all people understand what an -RC is > (windows users especially).. anyways, longty discussion about it and > explanation on the subject of -RC version is available through the > wonderfull 'search' feature of SF (search mail archives) gmane could also > help you.. > > Now, this is MY suggestion... > what do we get by using MSNP12 ? what new feature ? PSM ? anything else ? > I'd say, let's have an option in advanced window that says : > "Enable support for Personal Messages (EXPERIMENTAL feature) -- needs > profile + restart" > so if people complain about PSM, we say enable it, and they get their > feature, that's it.. they can also test (I'd like to get a "protocol > version" in the bug report system if we're ever doing this...), also, it > makes the philosophy of a "bugfix release" respected.. and we're sure > 0.95.1 is more stable than 0.95 (not the opposite)... + users are happy... > what do you think ? > second option is to have a "use new experimental protocol" checkbox in the > "Login as" window (the same way we did when we introduced msnp9) > > KKRT > Well yes that was my idea.. a user doesn't see that it is a big change, but it wants PSM enabled.. so it looks like a minor thing. But the only way to make sure it works ok is to enable it in CVS. It was already delayed for more then a month (or two?) because we didn't want it in 0.95. That's why I made the suggestion to enable it in cvs and see if we release it with 0.95.1 or not. I am against not enabling in cvs and then shipping in 0.95.1 as an option. I would prefer enabling now, turning of with the release but make it available as an option.
Tjikkun P.S. Just FYI: Earlier today i got my first msnp13 contact list. There is still a LOT todo before p13 is even ready for testing, but there is slow progress. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click _______________________________________________ Amsn-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
