Thanks dude!

KKRT


On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 04:44:32PM -0500, J?r?me Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> Yes I will write to him and take care of it, i'll let you know later  
> about the results.
> Le 24 f?vrier 2006 ? 16:19, Youness Alaoui a ?crit :
> 
> >The problem is that it seems not everyone updated.. they all just  
> >close the autoupdater window, as they probably don't
> >understand it..
> >But you brought this to my mind : what if users don't want to  
> >update to 0.96...
> >anyways, there are two plugins : games and organize_received that  
> >don't have the autoupdater config in their
> >plugininfo.xml.. we should fix that
> >Also, I don't know how well we'll fix it with a new release, but I  
> >just hoped it would be better..
> >do you think we can do something else about it ? maybe ask SF to  
> >turn off viewCVS for our project, or something ?
> >Jerome, could you answer that guy on my behalf, I don't have time  
> >to deal with this matter.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >KaKaRoTo
> >
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 03:53:09PM -0500, J?r?me Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> >>Can you explain a little bit better what is the problem exactly? We
> >>changed all links yes? Then what's the problem?
> >>Le 24 f?vrier 2006 ? 15:44, Youness Alaoui a ?crit :
> >>
> >>>hey...
> >>>the mail talks for itself.. 0.96 out soon ? if yes, make the final
> >>>preparations/fixes..
> >>>I will not participate in the rlease though, as I'm too busy...
> >>>problem is : I think everyone is..
> >>>
> >>>KKRT
> >>>
> >>>----- Forwarded message from Erich Zigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>-----
> >>>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Sfsupport-fastpipe] [Fwd: Re: SourceForge.net
> >>>Support: High
> >>>   ViewCVS usage for your project]
> >>>From: Erich Zigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>Greetings,
> >>>We are still seeing a lot of traffic from the autoupdater. Please
> >>>send
> >>>a status update to us as quickly as possible.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you,
> >>>
> >>>Erich Zigler
> >>>First Level Support Technician, SourceForge.net
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 15:58 -0500, David Burley wrote:
> >>>>-------- Forwarded Message --------
> >>>>From: Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: David Burley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>Subject: Re: SourceForge.net Support: High ViewCVS usage for your
> >>>>project
> >>>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:44:36 -0500
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>Is the application still causing problems ?
> >>>>It's been a few days (a week maybe) that the auto-update URLs were
> >>>>changed
> >>>>so people should be updating and will stop access viewCVS.. did it
> >>>>decrease the usage significantly enough ?
> >>>>If it's not good enough for you, I suggest we wait another week
> >>>>just in
> >>>>case, then If you think it didn't decrease enough, we'll release a
> >>>>new
> >>>>version.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank you!
> >>>>KaKaRoTo
> >>>>
> >>>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:24:36 -0500, David Burley
> >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thank you for the reply. Please take care of this in the next two
> >>>>>weeks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sincerely,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>David Burley
> >>>>>Senior Second Level Support Technician, SourceForge.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 08:08 -0500, Jacob Moorman wrote:
> >>>>>>>From: Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: SourceForge.net Support: High ViewCVS usage for  
> >>>>>>>your
> >>>>>>>project
> >>>>>>>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:28:17 -0500
> >>>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>>We didn't think about the problems it would cause, we especially
> >>>>>>didn't
> >>>>>>>think our client would be so successfull! We're trying our  
> >>>>>>>best to
> >>>>>>correct
> >>>>>>>this, with some luck, we'll be able to stop this activity soon,
> >>>>>>without
> >>>>>>>having to create a new release, without luck, we'll have to
> >>>>>>>release
> >>>>>>a new
> >>>>>>>version that fixes this issue. Let me first explain the
> >>>>>>>situation to
> >>>>>>you :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>What is this client doing?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>amsn is an MSN messenger clone, an Instant messenger client. We
> >>>>>>support
> >>>>>>>plugins that can be loaded into amsn to enhance its  
> >>>>>>>functionality.
> >>>>>>We also
> >>>>>>>support an 'auto-update' for these plugins, each time the client
> >>>>>>runs, it
> >>>>>>>will go fetch an XML file for each plugin currently available in
> >>>>>>aMSN and
> >>>>>>>see which file should be updated, then ask the user to update if
> >>>>>>needed,
> >>>>>>>if the user accepts, the auto-updater will fetch the files
> >>>>>>automatically..
> >>>>>>>Since most of these plugins are available in CVS (plugins  
> >>>>>>>done by
> >>>>>>our own
> >>>>>>>team), the files to fetch, as well as the XML file containing
> >>>>>>version
> >>>>>>>information on each file, are located in CVS, it seems we use
> >>>>>>viewCVS to
> >>>>>>>fetch those files.
> >>>>>>>I think the same thing happens with language files, since we
> >>>>>>>release
> >>>>>>most
> >>>>>>>of the times with incomplete language files, and they are
> >>>>>>>updated in
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>months that follow a release, the auto-updater checks for the
> >>>>>>language
> >>>>>>>files from CVS and if the file was updated, it will update the
> >>>>>>>file
> >>>>>>on the
> >>>>>>>user's machine so he gets an even more 'complete' language  
> >>>>>>>file...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Why is the client doing it more than once?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>It does it more than once because it needs to check for each
> >>>>>>>plugin
> >>>>>>that
> >>>>>>>the user has, some users may have more than one plugin, which  
> >>>>>>>will
> >>>>>>cause
> >>>>>>>this problem.
> >>>>>>>3 plugins are shipped by default with aMSN, so, best case
> >>>>>>>scenario,
> >>>>>>each
> >>>>>>>user will fetch a minimum of 4 files on startup (the 3  
> >>>>>>>plugins + 1
> >>>>>>>language file)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>How can we shut it off, without further causing issues, should
> >>>>>>that be
> >>>>>>>>found necessary?
> >>>>>>>We're already working on that, we found an alternate and safer
> >>>>>>solution,
> >>>>>>>we'll have to host those plugins on our website and periodically
> >>>>>>update
> >>>>>>>them to the cvs version, we'll also update the links to each  
> >>>>>>>file
> >>>>>>from the
> >>>>>>>XML file in CVS.. so the auto-updater will check files from our
> >>>>>>website
> >>>>>>>instead of using viewCVS. With luck, once everyone updates his
> >>>>>>plugins,
> >>>>>>>the client will fetch the XML file through our website on its  
> >>>>>>>next
> >>>>>>>startup. Without luck, people won't update the plugins and we'll
> >>>>>>still
> >>>>>>>have this activity (probability says once its fixed, most of the
> >>>>>>people
> >>>>>>>will update and the activity will stop or at least almost  
> >>>>>>>stop)...
> >>>>>>>We're still investigating this so we might find out the
> >>>>>>>solution is
> >>>>>>not
> >>>>>>>good...
> >>>>>>>We also have the language files problem, which URL can't be
> >>>>>>changed...
> >>>>>>>this will be a fix for the next release I suppose, we'll try to
> >>>>>>>get
> >>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>release out as soon as possible to fix this issues (as well as
> >>>>>>>many
> >>>>>>other
> >>>>>>>issues we're currently working on)..
> >>>>>>>Can you give us a deadline for completly fixing this with a new
> >>>>>>release ?
> >>>>>>>(assuming plugins problem is fixed without having a new release)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On behalf of the aMSN team, I apologize for causing trouble  
> >>>>>>>to the
> >>>>>>SF
> >>>>>>>team, and we hope we'll fix this soon and stop causing  
> >>>>>>>problems...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thank you,
> >>>>>>>KaKaRoTo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:19:10 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Greetings,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>My name is David Burley and I am the Senior Second Level  
> >>>>>>>>Support
> >>>>>>>>Technician
> >>>>>>>>for SourceForge.net. You are being contacted as you are a  
> >>>>>>>>project
> >>>>>>admin
> >>>>>>>>for
> >>>>>>>>the 'amsn' project. We have noticed a lot of activity on your
> >>>>>>project
> >>>>>>>>ViewCVS interface, and it all seems to be from your software
> >>>>>>client. This
> >>>>>>>>activity is quite high in volume and appears to come multiple
> >>>>>>times from
> >>>>>>>>a
> >>>>>>>>source IP during client startup.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>What is this client doing?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Why is the client doing it more than once?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>How can we shut it off, without further causing issues, should
> >>>>>>that be
> >>>>>>>>found necessary?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Please respond to this message by no later than: 2006-01-26.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>David Burley
> >>>>>>>>Senior Second Level Support Technician, SourceForge.net
> >>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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