Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 18:06 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui:
oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts
it
in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but.. still
allow users to configure it as they want.. an additional 'Exit'.. humm..
I'm skeptical.. I would say maybe, but if yes, only at the condition of
:
instead of having :
Close
Exit
have :
Minimize to tray
Exit
The official client whows a message on first use of this "feature"
though, which I still think is crack.
I'm now thinking of having
...
---
Minimise to tray
Close
"Close", as the last action, should allways do the same, terminate the
application. Having an extra option for minimise might be ok and I
guess I'll add it though I'm not really a fan :).
or something like that to make sure the diff between both...
btw, while in the design, we should think, right now, and with the
experts help on the accelerators we should have!!! bindings are lame,
ctrl-s, ctrl-d, and ctrl-p are the only ones I know.. I just realized
that
the official client reacts ALOT to what I type in it (typing in the CL
will filter contacts, same as a search...) so we should define Ctrl-
Ctrl-Alt- Alt- bindings to something...
KKRT
Keyboard-use is also very important for usability. This is not only
important to advanced users, as soem ppl with speech-input systems and
other assistance technologies, can have ways to insert these commands
while they can't use a mouse.
On Fri, 05 May 2006 17:53:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:
>
>> > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences
>> > This is something only set once. From usability point of view
>> > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close
>> > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in
the
>> > main menu. Though, this is an often requested feature, so it
should
>> > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window.
>>
>> I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon
should
>> be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close
in
>> the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main
>> window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item
>> appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make
the
>> trayicon disappear too.
>
> No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference
> between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any
applications.
> Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the
program's
> main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake!
Yes it
> is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the
> icon
> down right, or the window in the taskbar? Then why shouldn't the Close
> button just close it and keep it in the taskbar (ie, minimized)? It's
> like
> this in every program that I've seen, apart from some IMs which
insist on
> laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you can't, I want to
stay
> open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is that it obeyed to
> the
> normal rule. Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too,
I'm
> even capable of placing a veto here. Really.
>
>
>
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