On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:16:55AM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > I agree 100%. We just shouldn't do this anymore. We should just offer the > source package and the Windows and Mac binary packages, and the autopackage > for Linux. The packages for the various distros will be done by the distros, > and if the distro doesn't include amsn, some volunteer may also create it > after the official release date, we should not wait for it. Maybe we should > not even wait for any binary packages at all, and announce a release like: > > Release .... is out! You can now download the source package from ... and as > soon as possible binary packages will also be published for Mac, Windows and > Linux (generic autopackage). Linux distribution-specific packages are not > created by us, but many distros include aMSN themselves, and will soon > provide a package of this new release. >
i would disagree.. as much as I want to shorten the trouble for us, I don't want to make it more difficult for our users either... the windows/mac/AP packages MUST be available before announcing the release... howtos for other distros should also be available. KKRT > Op woensdag 12 juli 2006 00:10, schreef Youness Alaoui: > > Yes I know that, I never said we were working on the packages for 1 month, > > I only said it 'took us' 1 month to have the packages ready... this isn't > > the problem of the packages themselves, but rather our lack of motivation, > > if we had one package to do we'd create it in a few seconds and we're > > done.. now, we have to wait for this or thisperson, who has this or this > > distro, etc... > > it still is unacceptable.. > > > > KKRT > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 11:28:12PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I think you are wrong on this... > > > The packages didn't take 1 month to be done... It's simply that none of > > > us cared of doing it... > > > We tagged the release and... nothing... What made the release to be > > > published ? Some people made the things moving.... > > > Phil > > > > > > Le Tuesday 11 July 2006 21:23, Youness Alaoui a ?crit?: > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 09:37:42AM +0200, Sander Hoentjen wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 01:30 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: > > > > > > Which is why we should stop this whole packages NON-SENS and stop > > > > > > providing ONE binary... (autopackage) instead of a hundred > > > > > > thousands (+ it will save us one or two months of packaging... can > > > > > > anyone confirm what was the date we first created the rc1 tag ?) > > > > > > > > > > jun 16th > > > > > > > > Thanks, so it means it's been 1 month now.. 1 month for packaging.. > > > > usually people fix bugs, package and release in one month! > > > > > > > > > And i agree with youness, it is the reason i started the list with > > > > > distro's > > > > > - Fedora > > > > > - Ubuntu > > > > > - Gentoo > > > > > - Debian > > > > > - Mandriva > > > > > > > > > > If I understand correctly all the above distro's package amsn > > > > > themselves (Fedora has 0.96rc1 for about 3 weeks already now) so > > > > > there is no need to release them on our website. What would be nice > > > > > is detailed instructions in how to get amsn on different distro's > > > > > (for Fedora yum install amsn, for Ubuntu enable universal repo(how?), > > > > > apt-get install amsn?, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Sander > > > > > > > > Yes, I do think your idea is great, having instructions for yum/apt > > > > capable distros and have apkg for those who don't.. anywyas, these > > > > days, all 'respectable distros' have a package repository and those who > > > > don't.. well they should use AP and not whine. > > > > GO FOR IT, but only for the next RC... in the meantime, as I proposed > > > > already, have a poll to see what our users think about that.. > > > > Also, can someone (Phil?) do the changes necessary for creating a real > > > > universal AP package ? > > > > > > > > KKRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >-- Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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