hehe, ok.. blame the mail program :p
you're right about alt-tab, didn't think of it, I rarely use that... 
'bye bye iconchange', humm, iconchange seems to be a good name for a plugin. 
You should think of adding the 
event soon if you want it to work for the 0.97 release.

KKRT


On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 08:58:22AM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> "idem dito" was on "humm.. no, this is a feature, not a bug fix, so
> for sure it shouldn't go into the branch!" .. I accidently seem to
> have repied to the wrong mai although I now suspect my email program
> to have made an error;
> 
> I'll remove this right away as I don't want an advanced option for
> this "nicety".  Even when using tabbed windows it seems handy to me as
> it will show the dp from your last chat and it makes it easier to find
> ... you last chat.
> 
> "Icon too small" depends on your windowmanager.  Using alt-tab on
> windows shows it bigger for example (most alt-tab copies do, as it was
> disabled on windows this arguement won't make sense if I say this);
> using awn (http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/) on linux
> makes it big too I think (just an example) ...
> 
> Anyway, byebye iconchange :).
> 
> Karel.
> 
> 2007/6/1, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > wait, something's wrong, in the previous mail, you said the opposite of 
> > what you just said here.. lol
> >
> > anyways, about sane defaults, I'd say remove it for multiple reasons :
> > 1 - icon would be too small to recognize + quality loss could make it just 
> > seem like an abstract painting :p
> > 2 - what if it's tabbed browsing? the purpose is lost
> > 3 - not working on windows and mac, so linux only setting.. worth it ?
> > 4 - depends on tcl/tk version and WM...
> > 5 - might confuse many people like "why the icon keeps changing"
> >
> >
> > KKRT
> >
> > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:48:22PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > > idem dito
> > >
> > > 2007/5/31, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I think this should become an advanced option and disabled by default.. 
> > > > no ?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:21:49PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > > > > I meant "dock" instead of "tray" ... but as it's one icon for the
> > > > > whole app I think it's best to not change the dock icon for the active
> > > > > chat DP as it wouldn't make it better (no different items to
> > > > > extinguish) and make it worse to find amsn (as the icon wouldn't be
> > > > > always the same).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/5/31, Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > There isn't a tray on OS X. We've got a dock with open applications
> > > > > > or applications to launch, but it's not like the windows one.
> > > > > > Currently right clicking on the icon gives a contextual menu with 
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > open windows (clicking on the item raises the window), but not the
> > > > > > open tabs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 31 May 2007, at 16:57, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, this is a test if you like it.  it seems to make it easier to 
> > > > > > > find
> > > > > > > chatwindows you recently used in a window manager's windows list. 
> > > > > > >  (as
> > > > > > > in it was covered byu a window and you can more quickly find the 
> > > > > > > image
> > > > > > > related to the person (especially if he or she doesn't change 
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > images too often) as you had it on your screen just before it was
> > > > > > > covered).
> > > > > > > Does this icon appear in the tray on mac too ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was wondering about discussing it before applying but then 
> > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > it's quite trivial so I could just do it so you see it and it can
> > > > > > > easily be removed again if it's not liked.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Karel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS: I'm aware of the fact it possibly doesn't work for windows
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > >> Just backported in branch...
> > > > > > >> I wondor for Scapor modification...
> > > > > > >> Author: scapor
> > > > > > >> Project:        amsn
> > > > > > >> Revision:       8782
> > > > > > >> Changed Lines:  61
> > > > > > >> tryout: winicon is changed to DP of user for chatwindows to 
> > > > > > >> easily
> > > > > > >> find
> > > > > > >> chats in windowmanager listings.OK or not ?
> > > > > > >> Phil
> > > > > > >> PS And this shitty amsn-commits ML that doesn't work with me :@
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> > > > > > >>> well done on your first commit!
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> by the way, you should also subscribe to the amsn-commits 
> > > > > > >>> mailing
> > > > > > >>> list, so you can see all the commits.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Keep it coming ;)
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> KKRT
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:05:49AM +0200, Mirko Hansen wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> Wow thanks a lot everybody for this nice welcome. It's a real
> > > > > > >>>> pleasure to
> > > > > > >>>> me. I think I should introduce myself roughly. Well, I think 
> > > > > > >>>> you
> > > > > > >>>> all already
> > > > > > >>>> know, but my name is Mirko. ;) I'm 24 years old, living in
> > > > > > >>>> Germany, and
> > > > > > >>>> actually I'm studying computer science at university. It's
> > > > > > >>>> sometimes really
> > > > > > >>>> time-consuming, especially if we have those really nice
> > > > > > >>>> homeworks like the
> > > > > > >>>> last two days, but I hope I'll be of use for the team, anyway
> > > > > > >>>> I'll give my
> > > > > > >>>> best to. As Youness said, I'm very new to TCL, I never had to
> > > > > > >>>> deal with it
> > > > > > >>>> before, so I would be really grateful if you advise me of my
> > > > > > >>>> possibly made
> > > > > > >>>> mistakes, to be able to learn from them. :)
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I think you'll hear from me soon. To a great teamwork! :)
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Bye,
> > > > > > >>>> Mirko
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> 2007/5/30, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > >>>>> yeah, sounds intriguing right ?
> > > > > > >>>>> well, baaazen is the username of Mirko. And this mail is to
> > > > > > >>>>> announce that
> > > > > > >>>>> he's been added as part of the team.
> > > > > > >>>>> So everyone, please welcome Mirko into the team, and please be
> > > > > > >>>>> helpful.
> > > > > > >>>>> Mirko, if you need anything, don't hesitate to ask. I think
> > > > > > >>>>> you've been
> > > > > > >>>>> following the ML for a little while now
> > > > > > >>>>> so you should know how we work. in short ;
> > > > > > >>>>> 1 - a bugfix, you can commit
> > > > > > >>>>> 2 - a change to the UI should be discussed
> > > > > > >>>>> 3 - a change of behavior should be discussed
> > > > > > >>>>> 4 - a new feature should be discussed.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Mirko is still studying and won't have much time (like 
> > > > > > >>>>> everyone
> > > > > > >>>>> else) but
> > > > > > >>>>> he promised to do his best to try and
> > > > > > >>>>> help. He doesn't know much Tcl but from the patches he sent, 
> > > > > > >>>>> it
> > > > > > >>>>> shows that
> > > > > > >>>>> he's very skilled and I'm sure he'll
> > > > > > >>>>> learn it all pretty soon.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> KaKaRoTo
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