Hi Mirko, I understand the concerns, and your points are valid. The compromise I suggested is a good solution I guess, as long as it has a 'remember my choice' option. I'm just afraid it would make too many windows asking the user his choice (we got one for quit/dock, one for close all tabs, one for the menus disappearing, etc..) I didn't update tot he latest svn yet to see how you implemented that, did you implement the compromise of asking the user ? No need to revert the change, if a msgbox is shown.
Thanks, KKRT On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 02:06:50AM +0200, Mirko Hansen wrote: > Well sorry at first for generating that "bug", I seemed to miss some deeper > thinking about it before, until Vivia told me that it should be a feature. > Maybe I translated my commit comment a little bit too hard, I rather meant > some kind of security risk instead of vulnerability, sorry for that, too. > Logout usually means you want to quit *all* your personal matters and not to > worry about several things that may be left. Windows won't leave some > instances of notepad open, for example, when you logout, or to compare it > with the online banking example of Harry: What if your online banking would > pop up a window with your statement, you simply click on logout and forget > to close the window with your statement. Sure, this window can't be simply > used to do unwanted things, but it is a lack of privacy. So it definitely is > a security risk for those who don't know of this feature, even me didn't > recognize that although using amsn for more than a year now. And I think the > users won't consist only of the devels here and some computer freaks that > use that feature actively, there will be a lot of "newbies" and I think you > are happy the more users will use your software. Furthermore it could also > happen that you simply forget closing a window (that is minimized for > example), especially when amsn is not the only program running, nobody is > perfect! So this is some kind of userfriendlyness to give users the feeling > of security and not to have to care for themselves, even users are lazy, you > should remember that! I can understand, you used that feature long time and > that you get angry that I didn't think of the possibility that this could be > a feature and only thought of the new users and this security risk, but I > think, the solution you proposed, and I implemented then, would be a > compromise, to allow the user choosing between the feature and the safety of > their privacy. > If you really can't share my thoughts and disagree on that, I'll revert it > ... > > Mirko > > > 2007/7/30, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Hi Harry, > > First, I wasn't yelling, I don't think I yelled and if I did, I'm sorry, > > it wasn't my intention, all I said was that features like that should be > > discussed, and that I just lost all my > > CWs and I was :( > > about the discussion, lol, I should really see a doctor, I even answered > > on that thread :p and I got no memory about that... > > so yeah, it was discussed before, but indeed, we never decided to do it. > > Anyways, I stop hope the change will be reverted... although I saw some > > other commits after that related to this bug, so maybe Baazen fixed it > > somehow.. > > > > KKRT > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 07:37:49PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: > > > Youness, I think there is no reason to yell that much. There were a > > > few e-mails about this, although this exact behavior was not agreed > > > upon. But it might be just a wrong implementation of what was > > > discussed. So, still a BUG, but no need for saying there hasn't been > > > any discussion. (FYI: discussion was in reply to commit of rev. 8929). > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > Op 30-jul-2007, om 19:10 heeft Youness Alaoui het volgende geschreven: > > > > > > > yeah, it's a BUG!! > > > > Baazen... your latest changes made all chat windows close on > > > > logout... WHY? > > > > I don't think it's a good idea, and it's also a change in behavior > > > > which should have been discussed on the mailing list, and I didn't > > > > get any > > > > email.. > > > > unless SF screwed up and I don't get any more emails from the ML, > > > > otherwise, it's obvious that the ML is dead at the moment, but that > > > > doesn't mean > > > > we should just stop asking about features or others that should be > > > > put in SVN. > > > > Anyways, please revert your change since it just closed all my > > > > windows and I needed them to all stay opened while I was offline :@ :( > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > KKRT > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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