ok, i now made the contactlist kind of work.. there is still a lot of
work needing to be done, especially handleNLN needs to be rewritten, for
now i copy/pasted code, also handleILN needs to be written, you now only
see contacts online after they change state :)

Sander

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 03:55 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Don't worry, to enable MSNP15, you have to change the setting in the config 
> manually.. + we already have code that forces the setting back to msnp12 
> whenever you exit/restart amsn
> I removed that 'force back to 12' for now, but we'll make sure the code is 
> back there when we release...
> Without that config key, the users will not be affected..
> and btw, the new audio chat feature should *not* go into the bugfix release.. 
> it will have to wait for 0.98...
> + audio chat receive+send only works on msnp13+, with msnp12 we can only do 
> the send part... but it's bidirectional, so it's just a question of 
> sending or receiving the invitation..
> 
> KaKaRoTo
> 
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 09:55:16AM +0100, Harry Vennik wrote:
> > Just a warning... Don't start adding all kind of features!!! We are  
> > working towards a bugfix release!
> > MSNP15 is good, but should be disabled by default in 0.97.1, and  
> > audiochat should probably be the only new feature then...
> > Just to be sure it will really be a bugfix release, and not a wrong- 
> > numbered 0.98.
> > 
> > Harry
> > 
> > 
> > Op 9-jan-2008, om 9:30 heeft Youness Alaoui het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> > > Thanks all for your opinions.. I gather from what I've read that  
> > > you think a bugfix release would be needed and considering the  
> > > amount of bugfixes we
> > > commited in the last few days (congrats to everyone involved :)),  
> > > we can be sure that we will be doing it...
> > > About a new 0.98 version, I think some of you would like to see it  
> > > continue and others think it shouldn't..
> > > well, here's what I think now that I've read your answers and have  
> > > been thinking about it...
> > > aMSN 0.x should I think continue to evolve alongside of amsn 2.. if  
> > > you want to jump on the amsn2 band wagon, then you can, if you feel  
> > > more at ease
> > > with tcl/tk and don't want to learn a new language or something,  
> > > then you can continue maintaining 0.x branch.
> > > I also think that before aMSN 2 becomes as good, as stable and has  
> > > as many features as amsn 0.x it will take a looong time.. and until  
> > > that time comes
> > > we don't want to have no release, and be left behind while all  
> > > other clients are evolving, so I think we should keep evolving  
> > > too.. I just thought of
> > > the enlightenment project, a great window manager, very good, etc..  
> > > then they started E17 development, a full rewrite, they wanted it  
> > > to be 'perfect'
> > > and be fancy and all that, and now, 8 years later, they are still  
> > > far from that goal, although near.. but in the meantime, gnome and  
> > > kde became huge..
> > > redhat stopped using enlightenment as the default window manager  
> > > because it didn't evolve as well as gnome/kde (actually the E16  
> > > development
> > > completely stopped for these 8 years even if the E17 development  
> > > was *very* active).  So, I don't want amsn2 to fall in the same  
> > > mistake, we will have
> > > to keep maintaining both versions, maybe with two different teams,  
> > > and that will allow us to evolve, and keep our current userbase..  
> > > otherwise we
> > > might release amsn 2 in 5 years and we have zero users since they  
> > > all switched to other clients that finally implemented webcam/file  
> > > transfers/etc.. +
> > > the new MSNP25 protocol features, while we're still trying to get  
> > > it right...
> > > So that's my opinion...
> > > And on that subject.. I have great news to announce to you all.. I  
> > > have just managed (and commited) to make MSNP15 work!!!
> > > You can try it out by doing :
> > > ::config::setKey protocol 15
> > > in the console and then reconnect. It will connect with MSNP15, it  
> > > will use the SSO and MBI crypto to authenticate, and it will all  
> > > work.. only thing
> > > missing, we don't download our contact list yet.. but you can still  
> > > chat (menu actions->send message->others->enter email) receive/send  
> > > OIMs, etc...
> > > so have fun testing that! Tjikkun will try to get the address book  
> > > (contacts list) working, and I'll probably work on that too during  
> > > the next few
> > > days.. so maybe.. maybe.. soon we'll have a working MSNP15  
> > > implementation! :)
> > > This means basically... all the things we ever wanted :p + the  
> > > audio chat feature can also be added soon..
> > >
> > > Have a nice day/night,
> > > KaKaRoTo
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:29:49PM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 02:55 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> 1 - Do you want a 0.97.1 bugfix release soon ?
> > >> Yes
> > >>> 2 - Do you think adding audio chat feature would be wise ?
> > >> Yes, makes no sense throwing code away
> > >>> 3 - Do you want to keep maintaining the 0.x branch ?
> > >> Well.. personally.. I am not very active, but it would be foolish to
> > >> tell anyone willing to not do it. Right now amsn 2.0 is nothing
> > >> (relatively)
> > >>> 4 - Do you want to add MSNP15 support to aMSN 0.x ?
> > >> See 3
> > >>
> > >> Sander
> > >>
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