On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 01:44:36PM +0100, square87 wrote:
> 2009/1/6 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
> 
> > Well, I've just reverted the change... it's incomplete, the
> > fonts, the skin boxes are wrong, the psm is wrong, psm under
> > nick option is ignored, etc... and this such a big change
> > should be discussed in the mailing list before ever getting
> > integrated into core...
> 
> 
> It's incomplete, no wrong.
> Yeah, i should use the ML
> 
np

> 
> >
> > Square, it's not because one or two users say "it should be
> > integrated into core" that you have to listen to them, you
> > have SVN access, they don't, so it's your responsability to
> > use it correctly.
> 
> 
> I use it correctly, and i committed my changes no because of two users says
> to me: do it.
> 
> 
> >
> > If you did some performance improvements on the current CL,
> > that's one thing, but rewriting the whole thing is
> > completely different.
> > This should be disucssed first, that's my opinion.
> > And in my opinion, it's useless because if you add
> > everything that we currently do, it will become just as slow
> > as the current implementation... the newCL implementation
> > was very fast, but became slowler as we added more features,
> > square, your fastCL implementation will become slow too if
> > you add all the features, and as long as it doesn't have all
> > the features, then it can't be in the core!
> 
> 
> I tried to complete it, and it's not slow as the actuall CL.
> But i noticed a very big CPU loading :-\
> So it's not good...
>
humm.. so you mean once the fastCL is more complete, then it
becomes just as slow as the current CL ?
I think the best way to speed it up is to just have options
to disable some options... I also know (and had many
confirmations from many users on the forums), that if you
use a simple skin, one that doesn't use the background image
for the groups, and doesn't use transparency in its images,
then you'll get a HUGE performance boost..
 
> 
> >
> > Also note that a rewrite is always bad, it's always better
> > to do some refactoring in order to improve on what we
> > already have, if interested, there's a very good article
> > about refactorisation/rewriting.
> 
> 
> yep, i am interested. Can you give me those artcles?
>
mainly, just google for "refactor vs rewrite", you'll find
plenty of articles.. 
The one that I had to read was this :
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
(I was given that link when I also wanted to rewrite
something at work, and i was told I should refactor instead)
 
> 
> >
> > And one last thing, I think it's too late for something like
> > that, I'd really like to see 0.98 out as soon as possible,
> > and this is a huge change to put in there before the
> > release, so it's better not to.. you have it as a plugin
> > now, so keep it as a plugin for now!
> 
> 
> I agree with you about amsn 0.98. I didn't know about the release as soos as
> possible.
> My mistakes have been to not complete it before commit it, but mainly i have
> to inform and wait before commit a big change.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > KaKaRoTo
> >
> >
> Square87
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:44:43PM +0000, Tom Hennigan wrote:
> > > Just noticed that the old CL fonts aren't taken into account?
> > > (http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1425/picture2yw0.png). Just to make
> > > you aware incase it was a mac thing. Let me know if it is, I'll look
> > > into it at some point if it is.
> > >
> > > - Tom
> > >
> > > squar...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
> > > > Revision: 10826
> > > >           http://amsn.svn.sourceforge.net/amsn/?rev=10826&view=rev
> > > > Author:   square87
> > > > Date:     2009-01-06 11:37:52 +0000 (Tue, 06 Jan 2009)
> > > >
> > > > Log Message:
> > > > -----------
> > > > delevopment of a fast cl. first release
> > > >
> >
> >

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