ok so i have to wait then
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> From: Wil Alvarez <wil.alejan...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] GSoC 2009
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> 2009/3/15 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
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>> 2 - there's not much UI work to do unless we first improve
>> the core/protocol part! We need to greatly improve the core,
>> then create all the interfaces for the core->UI
>> communication, and then we'll have to start working on the
>> gui... all front ends are stalled now because of the core
>> being stalled.
>>
>
> Yeap, and talking about that i wanna say that I'm not dead =P ... i always
> read the mailing list but i'm just waiting some advance in core/protocol to
> continue working with gtk ui for amsn2 ;) (i would like to collaborate with
> amsn 0.98 but i know _NOTHING_ about tcl/tk)
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> i have problems with my cam it doesn't work when i want to used it with my
> contacts what can i do to solve this problem
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>> 1. net top-cw (square87)
>> 2. Re: net top-cw (Tom Hennigan)
>> 3. GSoC 2009 (Youness Alaoui)
>> 4. Re: net top-cw (Youness Alaoui)
>> 5. Branches needed? (Was Re: net top-cw) (St?phane Bisinger)
>> 6. Re: GSoC 2009 (Tom Hennigan)
>> 7. Re: GSoC 2009 (Youness Alaoui)
>> 8. Re: GSoC 2009 (Tom Hennigan)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:18:29 +0100
>> From: square87 <squar...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Amsn-devel] net top-cw
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
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>> Hi all
>>
>> I am writing a new topcw.
>> You can see the screeshot here http://www.pensierialquadrato.net/bg1.png
>> What are the differences between the old system and the new one?
>>
>> Now we can show smilyes in the tab, and if you are using colorednicks also
>> nick styles.
>> Then the topcw it's wlm-like but better, much modern and configurable.
>>
>> I want to know what do you think about it and if you agree i'll put it on
>> svn (it works... :P )
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:16:59 +0000
>> From: Tom Hennigan <tomhenni...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] net top-cw
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>> Looks good square87, only things I've noticed:
>>
>> - The close bar seems relative to the nick? it should always be in the
>> top-right corner of the tab..
>> - Some of the tabs are of a different size to the others.. Possibly
>> because of the text, but this should be rectified. (See
>> http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1vkd.png)
>>
>> Otherwise it looks good so far!
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>> square87 wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I am writing a new topcw.
>>> You can see the screeshot here http://www.pensierialquadrato.net/bg1.png
>>> What are the differences between the old system and the new one?
>>>
>>> Now we can show smilyes in the tab, and if you are using colorednicks
>>> also nick styles.
>>> Then the topcw it's wlm-like but better, much modern and configurable.
>>>
>>> I want to know what do you think about it and if you agree i'll put it
>>> on svn (it works... :P )
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Square87
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:52:33 -0400
>> From: Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
>> Subject: [Amsn-devel] GSoC 2009
>> To: amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Last year we had a slot in the google summer of code which
>> resulted in a new extension (not currently used by amsn.. we
>> should really start using it...).
>> This year's summer of code is about to start and the Tcl
>> community is asking whether we want to be part of the it
>> again.
>> I have absolutely no idea on what project ideas we could
>> have, so I'm not really sure, but if anyone has any idea,
>> let's talk about it.
>>
>> KaKaRoTo
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:38:46 -0400
>> From: Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] net top-cw
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
>> <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Message-ID: <20090313193846.ga32...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
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>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:18:29AM +0100, square87 wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>> Hi Triangle87!
>>
>>> I am writing a new topcw.
>>> You can see the screeshot here http://www.pensierialquadrato.net/bg1.png
>>> What are the differences between the old system and the new one?
>>>
>>> Now we can show smilyes in the tab, and if you are using colorednicks also
>>> nick styles.
>> cool, that's a good feature!
>>
>>> Then the topcw it's wlm-like but better, much modern and configurable.
>>>
>> What do you mean WLM-like? I don't think WLM even has tabs:p
>> So what exactly did you mean by that ?
>>
>>> I want to know what do you think about it and if you agree i'll put it on
>>> svn (it works... :P )
>>>
>>
>> Well my opinion is this :
>> 1 - I think that it's a bit of a waste of time... as you
>> probably know, we're already pretty much short staffed, not
>> a lot of developers have time to dedicate to aMSN and
>> development isn't as active as before...
>> I know that colored nicks are your "pet project" so you
>> added support for contact list and for chat window and now
>> topcw, and I can understand that and it's good to have
>> something that motivates you!
>> 2 - We are currently trying to get amsn 0.98 released so the
>> TODO list and bugs should be fixed... that's I think our top
>> priority... It also basically means that we want bugfixes
>> and we don't want to add new features that might add bugs...
>> 3 - if the feature is already done, then great! I don't mind
>> it being added to SVN, considering how development is slow
>> now, I think it will get tested enough before we release, so
>> it's fine for now!
>> 4 - The tabs don't look like buttons, they look like a
>> simple image in there, I'd like to see some relief to the
>> buttons.. (just look at the current tabs and try to
>> replicate the look and feel of it).
>> Keeping the same feature/look but just adding the capability
>> to add smileys/colorednicks is important I think
>> 5 - Don't take everything I said badly, I just feel that we
>> have a list of high priority stuff that are *blockers*..
>> that we can't make a release without finishing them, and the
>> colored tabs was not one of them.. so if you could spend
>> some free time on aMSN, it would have been helpful to do it
>> on our TODO list rather than on something low priority.
>> However, like I always say, aMSN is composed by a group of
>> open source developers and we have no hierarchy and everyone
>> is free, so you can in theory do whatever you want and whatever
>> motivates you the most. Getting work done that motivates you
>> is better than not doing anything!
>> 6 - Make sure you test the code correctly with the different
>> options that can make the code path change.. so if you have
>> a [::config::getKey whatever] in the code, make sure to test
>> the code with and without the 'whatever' option.. also try
>> to test it with and without the colorednicks plugin.. most
>> of the bugs we find are usually because developers tend to
>> test a feature with their own options (like voip controls
>> that i never tested with the option 'use a single dp
>> frame'...)
>>
>> That's it, keep it up! :)
>>
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Square87
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:02:04 +0000
>> From: St?phane Bisinger <stephane.bisin...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Amsn-devel] Branches needed? (Was Re: net top-cw)
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
>> <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <74d652a60903131402h2edfb9c6ra184d4987704e...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/3/13 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>:
>>> 2 - We are currently trying to get amsn 0.98 released so the
>>> TODO list and bugs should be fixed... that's I think our top
>>> priority... It also basically means that we want bugfixes
>>> and we don't want to add new features that might add bugs...
>>
>>
>> Since it is not the first time I see such a scenario arising on this
>> mailing list, I think you really need to use branches. I do understand
>> that with SVN branches are hard to manage, but it's not the first time
>> I see some development held back because you have to concentrate on
>> getting 0.98 out. I'm not blaming anyone for this, it is absolutely
>> right to avoid introducing new features until 0.98 is out, but that's
>> why a branch would be useful: I fear that by rejecting contributions
>> for this reason could restrain some people from doing further
>> contributions, thinning the developing workforce.
>> Of course I understand that there might be technical difficulties, or
>> other problems of another nature and that you already discussed this
>> opting for no branches, but anyway I feel it worth letting you know
>> what I could observe from the outside.
>>
>> Since SourceForge recently introduced support to git, I'm wondering
>> what are your feelings about it. It could solve easily the branching
>> problem, but it would of course need re-training on your part on how
>> to use the tool correctly. If you are not familiar with it, I could
>> write a guide on your Wiki on how to do development on amsn using git
>> (through git-svn), so that you may try it out before making any
>> decision. You could then point people to it when you need to hold
>> their changes waiting for a release. Anyway it's your call ;)
>>
>> --
>> St?phane
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:22:51 +0000
>> From: Tom Hennigan <tomhenni...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] GSoC 2009
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
>> <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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>> We could have the cocoa interface for amsn2 as a project.. That's
>> something I've kind of already taken on, but as part of gsoc it would
>> definitely push it forward.. It's also kinda stalled atm, so gsoc might
>> breathe life into it..
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>>
>> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Last year we had a slot in the google summer of code which
>>> resulted in a new extension (not currently used by amsn.. we
>>> should really start using it...).
>>> This year's summer of code is about to start and the Tcl
>>> community is asking whether we want to be part of the it
>>> again.
>>> I have absolutely no idea on what project ideas we could
>>> have, so I'm not really sure, but if anyone has any idea,
>>> let's talk about it.
>>>
>>> KaKaRoTo
>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:29:57 -0400
>> From: Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] GSoC 2009
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
>> <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Message-ID: <20090314192956.ga...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>
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>> On one side, yes, it's true... on the other side :
>> 1 - it's python/cocoa, not tcl/tk related... so we can't
>> host that under the tcl community umbrella project
>> 2 - there's not much UI work to do unless we first improve
>> the core/protocol part! We need to greatly improve the core,
>> then create all the interfaces for the core->UI
>> communication, and then we'll have to start working on the
>> gui... all front ends are stalled now because of the core
>> being stalled.
>>
>> sorry... any other ideas?
>>
>> KKRT
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:22:51PM +0000, Tom Hennigan wrote:
>>> We could have the cocoa interface for amsn2 as a project.. That's
>>> something I've kind of already taken on, but as part of gsoc it would
>>> definitely push it forward.. It's also kinda stalled atm, so gsoc might
>>> breathe life into it..
>>>
>>> - Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Last year we had a slot in the google summer of code which
>>>> resulted in a new extension (not currently used by amsn.. we
>>>> should really start using it...).
>>>> This year's summer of code is about to start and the Tcl
>>>> community is asking whether we want to be part of the it
>>>> again.
>>>> I have absolutely no idea on what project ideas we could
>>>> have, so I'm not really sure, but if anyone has any idea,
>>>> let's talk about it.
>>>>
>>>> KaKaRoTo
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:04:47 +0000
>> From: Tom Hennigan <tomhenni...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] GSoC 2009
>> To: Mailing list for developers and everyone helping AMSN
>> <amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Message-ID: <49bc461f.8020...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Lol, true and true. So yea all in all not a great plan!
>>
>> I'll try to think of other ideas =]
>>
>> - Tom
>>
>> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>> On one side, yes, it's true... on the other side :
>>> 1 - it's python/cocoa, not tcl/tk related... so we can't
>>> host that under the tcl community umbrella project
>>> 2 - there's not much UI work to do unless we first improve
>>> the core/protocol part! We need to greatly improve the core,
>>> then create all the interfaces for the core->UI
>>> communication, and then we'll have to start working on the
>>> gui... all front ends are stalled now because of the core
>>> being stalled.
>>>
>>> sorry... any other ideas?
>>>
>>> KKRT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:22:51PM +0000, Tom Hennigan wrote:
>>>> We could have the cocoa interface for amsn2 as a project.. That's
>>>> something I've kind of already taken on, but as part of gsoc it would
>>>> definitely push it forward.. It's also kinda stalled atm, so gsoc might
>>>> breathe life into it..
>>>>
>>>> - Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year we had a slot in the google summer of code which
>>>>> resulted in a new extension (not currently used by amsn.. we
>>>>> should really start using it...).
>>>>> This year's summer of code is about to start and the Tcl
>>>>> community is asking whether we want to be part of the it
>>>>> again.
>>>>> I have absolutely no idea on what project ideas we could
>>>>> have, so I'm not really sure, but if anyone has any idea,
>>>>> let's talk about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> KaKaRoTo
>>>>>
>>>
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