Happy to see methodology being discussed. When WMF has worked out a method
that it thinks makes sense, please discuss with the community at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Media_Viewer/June_2014_RfC.
You may also wish to engage with Commons and German Wikipedia.

Thanks,

Pine


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Andrew Gray <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > A/B testing for major interface changes isn't such a good idea, I
> > think. It's great for small things like login fields that people
> > aren't likely to notice, but once you get into major interface
> > elements you're going to get quite a few people confused or
> > frustrated.
> >
> > "Why is your Wikipedia different to mine?", "Why does this not look
> > like the help page says?", etc.
>
> Regarding help pages ...
>
> It is safe to say that a decent segment of the editing community wants
> to keep the old interface, and the old interface is needed to edit the
> page, and I think it is safe to assume that the MediaViewer isnt going
> away - at worst it will go back to being a Beta Feature that is
> enabled for a large segment of the userbase.
>
> Therefore, the help pages need to cover both.  This is a cost of
> introducing a feature that isnt a complete replacement of prior
> functionality - and has a high maintenance cost that the devs and
> community must bear.  The solution to that is to hold the feature in
> Beta until it is an acceptable replacement for the existing
> functionality.
>
> If this A/B testing goes ahead, and I think it should, the relevant
> help pages should have a note at the top that explains that testing is
> occurring and their user pref may have been preset to either one.
>
> --
> John Vandenberg
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