Hello, I report this information to organizations already. I get data percentages from third parties, like shown here <http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org>
and multiply their percentages by other estimates that they share for various regions of a country. In this way, I provide estimates of Wikipedia traffic to a set of articles in a region of a country. Of course this must have low accuracy, but it is a guess that I can make using the best data available to me. I would love to have access to anything more accurate. I work in the health sector and I can confirm that a major reason why more health organizations do not contribute to Wikipedia is because convincing evidence does not exist to demonstrate that significant numbers of people use Wikipedia to seek health information. The bar they would want to see is quite low and it seems obvious to me that Wikipedia must be serving a larger audience than they are reaching in the other Internet outlets they use. If you make a project page on wiki for your idea then please share. yours, On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Folks -- sorry for the delay in responding. > > While this data is awesome, we need to review the anonymization carefully. > We once shared this data in dashboards and found some privacy issues so we > needed to take it down. > > We have an action item to review this issue with legal. I will follow up > next week. > > -Toby > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Katherine Maher <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I would just like to second Jessie's enthusiasm: this would be helpful to >> have available for certain media requests, particularly for journalists >> from smaller countries that want to write profiles about the degree of >> engagement their fellow citizens have with Wikipedia. >> >> Of course, we may find some disappointing stories in there as well, >> particularly underscoring the lack of editors from global south countries, >> so it will be important to deliver a good explanation for why anonymization >> means we have no useable data on certain nations. In any case, the results >> will be interesting. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Leduc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I know the researchers have already put some thought around how to break >>> down editors by country. I think this falls under metric standardization >>> and we want to have a consistent way of counting editors who edit across >>> several projects. There is also an expectation that as you aggregate >>> numbers, editors are deduplicated (not counted twice). >>> >>> I don't know if we are totally prepared to have this conversation yet. >>> My priority list has discussions on how to break down editors by target >>> site (desktop, mobile, API) first, then how to aggregate editors across >>> projects. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yay to more people finding it useful :) >>>> >>>> Editors / Active editors isn't too hard to had programatically. The >>>> bigger problem is how to define 'editor from country' - one edit from >>>> that country? Does that mean that one editor can be considered to be >>>> from multiple countries? Do we double count mobile and desktop as >>>> separate? >>>> >>>> An easy way to do this would be: >>>> 1. An 'editor from a country' is someone who has made at least one >>>> edit from that country >>>> 2. A 'desktop editor from a country' is someone who has made at least >>>> one edit from that country on desktop >>>> 3. A 'mobile editor from a country' is someone who has made at least >>>> one edit from that country on mobile >>>> >>>> This muddles the data some what, since >>>> sum(editors_from_all_countries_for_a_project) != >>>> total_editors_for_project, and also sum(mobile_editors, >>>> desktop_editors) per country != total_editors per country. However, >>>> this is super simple to implement and also still useful, so I might >>>> end up doing that. >>>> >>>> Of course, assuming this entire thing gets OK'd fully by analytics :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Jessie Wild <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > THIS IS SO USEFUL! >>>> > >>>> > For grantmaking, this is the exact type of dataset we want to have >>>> publicly >>>> > available. A lot of the initiatives we fund are at a country-based >>>> level, >>>> > and our partners have a really hard time understanding the effects of >>>> the >>>> > work they are doing on the aggregate language-wiki level. In addition >>>> to >>>> > this edits per country, it would be even more important for us to get >>>> the >>>> > total number of editors / active editors by country as well. Kevin - >>>> it >>>> > would be great to get an update from on the timeline for this (in Q4 >>>> > 2014-15, it was punted to Q1 2014-15, but I haven't heard anything >>>> about it >>>> > yet ...) >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for starting this work, Yuvi! >>>> > Jessie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Kevin Leduc <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> > Hey Yuvi, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > this sounds like very interesting data to look at. Here are my >>>> >> > thoughts: >>>> >> >>>> >> :D >>>> >> >>>> >> > - the Anonymization scheme sounds reasonable, and I'd like to hear >>>> from >>>> >> > someone else @ wikimedia who has similar experience anonymizing >>>> data >>>> >> > sets >>>> >> >>>> >> Glad to hear that! >>>> >> >>>> >> > - you were probably already thinking about it, but we need >>>> documentation >>>> >> > too: a wikipage with the name of the table, data dictionary, >>>> etc... and >>>> >> > even >>>> >> > a blog post to announce the newly available data. >>>> >> >>>> >> Oh yeah, definitely. Will come once the code, etc is done :) >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Yuvi Panda T >>>> >> http://yuvi.in/blog >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Analytics mailing list >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Jessie Wild Sneller >>>> > Grantmaking Learning & Evaluation >>>> > Wikimedia Foundation >>>> > >>>> > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >>>> > the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >>>> > Donate to Wikimedia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Yuvi Panda T >>>> http://yuvi.in/blog >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Katherine Maher >> Chief Communications Officer >> Wikimedia Foundation >> 149 New Montgomery Street >> San Francisco, CA 94105 >> >> +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 >> +1 (415) 712 4873 >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 [email protected]
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