>1. We still need to verify that events sent from Content Translation are
being collected in beta.

I have added instructions how to do this to the EL beta labs bug. As far as
we know the environment should be working now.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73388

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to check in on this and confirm where things are at. As far as I
> understand, the outstanding issues for beta are:
>
> 1. We still need to verify that events sent from Content Translation are
> being collected in beta. The analytics team is looking into the issues in
> beta and Nuria has created a bug
> <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73388> in bugzilla to
> track any related work.
>
> 2. Sometime after Dan gets back from vacation, he and Joel will need to
> work together to set up a basic dashboard based on Dan's instructions
> <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards>.  Timing is
> dependent on 1. @Dan, let me know what works best for you and how I can
> best help.
>
> Since event logging in beta and production appear to be separate, I was
> wondering if it would be possible to set up separate dashboards for beta
> and production. That would be very useful for us because it would allow us
> to track the usage of languages we release to beta and then use that data
> to prioritize the languages we release to production.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joel
>
> On Nov 14, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Joel, Ori looked into this now. There was a problem with EL in labs
> which affected logging events from Beta. Ori has fixed the issue, and the
> fix is >waiting approval from ops. Let's touch-base tomorrow to see if we
> see events.
> In order to be able to properly test whether the fix fixes this issue we
> need to know what it is.
>
> There is a bug logged for the situation of beta and EL, can we please link
> any commits to this bug?
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73388
>
> Also, one thing is the setup of the varnish environment and other the
> setup of the eventlogging machine that has not received new code for quite
> a while, so I think we have more than one problem here.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [+ Ori]
>>
>> Joel, Ori looked into this now. There was a problem with EL in labs which
>> affected logging events from Beta. Ori has fixed the issue, and the fix is
>> waiting approval from ops. Let's touch-base tomorrow to see if we see
>> events.
>>
>> Leila
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel:
>>>
>>> I see, I was hoping to set aside the beta issues but if you are not
>>> deploying to prod any time soon I guess we will need to troubleshoot there.
>>> By the looks of it EL has not worked in beta since august, but, as I said
>>> before, I know very little about how beta is put together.
>>>
>>> I have filed a bug to regarding the beta issue:
>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73388
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nuria,
>>>>
>>>> >Please let me know if there is any way I can help out or if there is
>>>> anything you need from our end.
>>>> When you have deployed your newest code to production, let's check
>>>> whether events appear on the production stream. Let us know when deployment
>>>> is done and you think your code should be logging.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our code is not scheduled to be released to production until January.
>>>> Getting the metrics is partly to help us ensure and promote that release.
>>>> We will keep you informed as our plans progress, but hopefully we can
>>>> figure out what the issue is in beta soon.
>>>>
>>>> To confirm: You have seen proper logging from your events in vagrant,
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The output I am seeing with vagrant is what I pasted to this thread
>>>> earlier. It does not contain the url-encoded section or the user agent
>>>> information as we discussed before. I think that is an issue with my dev
>>>> environment, however, and not a problem with the code. The same code
>>>> appears to be sending valid events in beta. The http request I sent to your
>>>> email earlier is what we are seeing there. It seems to include all the
>>>> information you said it should include.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to debug what is happening in beta yourself, an easy way I
>>>> found to do that is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. Go to our Content Translation translation view
>>>>    
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation?page=Han+Feizi&from=es&to=ca&targettitle=Han+Feizi>
>>>>  page
>>>>    in beta (you will need to create an account and sign in)
>>>>    2. Open chrome dev tools,
>>>>    3. Click the add translation links that appear in the middle column
>>>>    to add a few machine translated paragraphs to the editor
>>>>    4. Click on the publish button in the header to publish the
>>>>    translation to your user namespace (triggers EL event)
>>>>    5. Look at the network pane in chrome dev tools and find the entry
>>>>    with the event logging url (it should be near the bottom).
>>>>    6. Click on the entry to see all the request and response
>>>>    information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You probably already know all this, but I thought I would pass it along
>>>> just in case it helps.
>>>>
>>>> Di you setup a sampling rate or code is logging 1 to 1?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No sample rate. Just logging 1 to 1.
>>>>
>>>> On our end we will work to troubleshoot the beta EL infrastructure, I
>>>> am not familiar with it and neither is anyone on our team but we will ask
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, Dan said you all kind of inherited EL so that’s totally
>>>> understandable. We appreciate you looking into this for us. Let us know how
>>>> else we can help.
>>>>
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nuria,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much for your help on this. Please let me know if there
>>>>> is any way I can help out or if there is anything you need from our end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer
>>>>> Language Engineering
>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking last statement back, asked Yuvi and beta does have a varnish
>>>>> instance so the flow of EL events "should" be the same one that 
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I looked on deployment-eventlogging02, which is the EL machine for
>>>>> labs and the last events I see there are from Aug 22.
>>>>>
>>>>> So no events have come in as of late, which could point to an issue on
>>>>> the setup. I will look into it some more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To keep archives happy: Beta setup post events to
>>>>>> http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/event.gif
>>>>>> <http://bits.beta.wmflabs.org/event.gif?foo=bar> that, while it does
>>>>>> not look to be varnish, has some kind of listener that post those events 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> beta event logging database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Niklas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you answer this question from Nuria?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jsahleen: does beta have its own varnish instance? where are you
>>>>>>> posting your events in beta? can you send teh url?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also would it be possible to document the steps you used when
>>>>>>> testing EL on beta so that others can reproduce them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer
>>>>>>> Language Engineering
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:28 AM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Moving this discussion to analytics@ and localization-team@ based
>>>>>>> on Nuria’s suggestion below.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Leila,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The output I posted in the message is the only output I am seeing. I
>>>>>>> do not see the URL-encoded section or the validation section. I think 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> may be something wrong with my testing setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Niklas Laxstöm has checked what is happening with our event logging
>>>>>>> in beta and he confirmed that we are sending events and the events are
>>>>>>> valid. The issue seems to be that we are logging events to the beta 
>>>>>>> event
>>>>>>> logging db while what we checked earlier was the production event 
>>>>>>> logging
>>>>>>> db.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you (or anyone who is available) check the event logging db in
>>>>>>> beta to see if the table has been created and has data? The schema name
>>>>>>> again is ContentTranslation. If you don’t find anything, let us know 
>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>> will do some more investigation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there is data in the beta db the next step would be to follow
>>>>>>> with Dan’s instructions
>>>>>>> <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards> to get a
>>>>>>> dashboard set up on limn1. I believe that most of Dan’s instructions 
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to be handled by someone on the analytics team, but let me know if 
>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>> anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for your help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer
>>>>>>> Language Engineering
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:47 PM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Joel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    When you log events, the output will be the URL-encoded JSON
>>>>>>> sent by the browser, the event record (similar to what you pasted in 
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> email), and whether the event validates against the schema. For the 
>>>>>>> sample
>>>>>>> output you pasted earlier, or another sample output, can you let us 
>>>>>>> know if
>>>>>>> validation section shows Valid?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leila
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For questions like these going forward you can contact analytics@
>>>>>>>> as you will be getting  amore prompt response. Both Dan and Leila are 
>>>>>>>> OOTO
>>>>>>>> the next couple of days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >There are configuration options for the dev server that need to
>>>>>>>> be added. Do similar options need to be added when not using the dev 
>>>>>>>> server?
>>>>>>>> No, there is no need.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You would need sample rates to determine at which sampling rate you
>>>>>>>> are logging if you are not logging all events, that is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Dan Andreescu <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adding Nuria as she can probably help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Leila,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tested our EventLogging code and it seems to be working
>>>>>>>>>> fine with the event logging dev server. I can see the events coming 
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> and they are valid. Here is some sample output:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> {"wiki": "wiki", "uuid": "e9dde14cf18552269ae81a7897f45d0c",
>>>>>>>>>> "webHost": "localhost", "timestamp": 1415651367, "clientValidated": 
>>>>>>>>>> true,
>>>>>>>>>> "recvFrom": "1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa", "seqId": 2, "clientIp":
>>>>>>>>>> "80f7683f3565e3d365740a1c8d1771ba95caaaaa", "schema": 
>>>>>>>>>> "ContentTranslation",
>>>>>>>>>> "event": {"action": "create-translated-page", "targetLanguage": "ca",
>>>>>>>>>> "token": "Tester", "version": 1, "contentLanguage": "es"}, 
>>>>>>>>>> "revision":
>>>>>>>>>> 7146627}
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are there additional configuration options we need to add to get
>>>>>>>>>> EL working aside from just requiring the main extension file. There 
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> configuration options for the dev server that need to be added. Do 
>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>> options need to be added when not using the dev server?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any help on this would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Joel Sahleen <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No problem, Dan. Enjoy your vacation!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will read through the document at the link you sent. I still
>>>>>>>>>> need to fix our event logging code so it may be a couple days before 
>>>>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>>> ready anyway. If I have any questions I will contact Leila or Nuria.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>> Language Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Dan Andreescu <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joel, re: visualization,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will be back on November
>>>>>>>>>> 19th.  If that's not too late, I can set up a limn instance then.  
>>>>>>>>>> If it's
>>>>>>>>>> too late, that's ok, I wrote up the steps needed.  Someone with 
>>>>>>>>>> access to
>>>>>>>>>> the limn1.eqiad.wmflabs instance can perform them:
>>>>>>>>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have the data or are generating the data in some other
>>>>>>>>>> way, then you don't need half of that setup, you just need the part 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> sets up the limn dashboard which is only an hour or so of work.  
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I'm
>>>>>>>>>> running out the door and can't take care of that for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Joel Sahleen <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the information, Pau. Very helpful. As you say,
>>>>>>>>>>> this does not change our current plans or hold us up in any way. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> was just
>>>>>>>>>>> wasn’t clear about the relationship between the "high priorities" 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> "other metrics” sections. Knowing these came from different people 
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> different times clarifies things a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Pau Giner <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Pau, @Amir There is a section called High priorities for
>>>>>>>>>>>> product management
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics#High_priorities_for_product_management>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Content translation analytics page. Did these priorities come 
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> outside the team or does this just represent our own internal view 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> high priorities?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the story of that page as I'm aware of it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In September 2013, I was in a meeting with the analytics team in
>>>>>>>>>>> SF presentingan initial proposal for metrics
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/1V1XLV7jUcAtco5ZC49SNTt3VecH7hARZ6vqbSFGnOYc/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>>>>>>>>> On that meeting, Dario recommended to create hierarchy of metrics 
>>>>>>>>>>> based on
>>>>>>>>>>> the project goals. I created such image and a description for those 
>>>>>>>>>>> metrics
>>>>>>>>>>> (the image is on top of our analytics page and the metrics are 
>>>>>>>>>>> described in
>>>>>>>>>>> what it now the "Other metrics for created articles" section.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In a meeting between Amir and Howie, they captured which should
>>>>>>>>>>> be the most important metrics from the product perspective in the 
>>>>>>>>>>> "High
>>>>>>>>>>> priorities for product management". If I recalled correctly, as an 
>>>>>>>>>>> outcome
>>>>>>>>>>> of later meetings between Howie and Amir, Howie was happy focusing 
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> articles published as a single (initial?) metric for success. Amir 
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> provide more details since I was not on those meetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In short: The analytics page
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics> has
>>>>>>>>>>> pieces contributed by different people during the last year, and 
>>>>>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>>>>>> there are many ideas to organise and detail, measuring the number of
>>>>>>>>>>> published articles seems to be the solid candidate to get started 
>>>>>>>>>>> with,
>>>>>>>>>>> learn from the value we get from it and polish the rest of 
>>>>>>>>>>> ourgoal-to-signal
>>>>>>>>>>> process <http://www.rodden.org/kerry/heart/> for detecting
>>>>>>>>>>> better metrics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pau
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Joel Sahleen <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been reviewing our requirements for Content translation
>>>>>>>>>>>> analytics
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a few questions/requests. I am sending them to the language 
>>>>>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>>>>>> list and Leila and Dan in the hopes of getting some more clarity. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will
>>>>>>>>>>>> add the same content to the Trello card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the weekly team meeting earlier today we agreed that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first metric we want to collect data for is the number of articles 
>>>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>>>> in each language over time. This is something has Amir has already 
>>>>>>>>>>>> set up our
>>>>>>>>>>>> current Event Logging
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki/extensions/ContentTranslation/89b6284f06b4419ddec6dcccee0eed500f267100/modules/eventlogging/ext.cx.eventlogging.js>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>>>>> track. Now that Kartik has enabled EL in beta, that part should be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we are only barely turning it on, there will be very little 
>>>>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>>>>> until people create more articles using CX. However, we should be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> set up to
>>>>>>>>>>>> collect any new data that comes in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Leila, can you verify that the db table now exists for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ContentTranslation
>>>>>>>>>>>> schema
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:ContentTranslation>?
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it doesn’t, can you point us to right people we need to work 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with to
>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot the issue? Also you mentioned in our meeting that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>>>> data may soon be purged after 90 days as part of a new privacy 
>>>>>>>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain that a bit more or point us to more information? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is the case, it may affect some of the metrics we would like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> collect in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Dan, what do we need to do next in order to set up a very
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple visualization that would show the number of articles 
>>>>>>>>>>>> created per
>>>>>>>>>>>> week by language. Pau has an image of what he would like on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trello
>>>>>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://trello.com/c/vQm0hlkt/18-content-translation-analytics>.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You mentioned something about being able to host a dashboard for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> us on one
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Limn servers you already have set up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Santhosh, I believe you said earlier you have a script you use
>>>>>>>>>>>> to export the data for the ULS analytics. If so can you share that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>> in case we need a similar script for CX so I don’t have to write a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>> script from scratch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Pau, @Amir There is a section called High priorities for
>>>>>>>>>>>> product management
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/analytics#High_priorities_for_product_management>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Content translation analytics page. Did these priorities come 
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> outside the team or does this just represent our own internal view 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> high priorities? If the latter, have these priorities been
>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewed by anyone outside the team? I think we are safe to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> proceed with
>>>>>>>>>>>> our current plan, but it would be good to have product sign off on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>> more generally.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel Sahleen, Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Language Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> Interaction Designer
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