Just speaking for the Kafka/Hadoop use case, you'd be perfectly able
to grep through without having to hit production-level requests; HDFS
files are very deliberately partitioned on the class of source varnish
(mobile, text, misc, upload, etc): you can just grep through the misc
files.

(Unless you meant a literal grep rather than a figurative one. In
which case, ignore this ;p)

On 30 January 2015 at 04:51, Faidon Liambotis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 01:23:10PM +0100, Christian Aistleitner wrote:
>> But if you want to make the point that misc need not be logged and
>> misc wasn't intentionally in udp2log and the 5xx tsvs, then by all
>> means: Yes, agreed, let's remove it. From both kafka and udp2log.
>> I am all for it.
>
> I don't think it was intentional, no. Even if it was at the time, I
> think it'd be wrong to put everything into the same pool of
> logs/statistics. Production should be separate and we shouldn't have to
> grep production 5xxs in the same log that also has e.g. git.wm.org's
> 5xx.
>
> All that said, a (separate) 5xx log of misc services can be useful, so I
> wouldn't object.
>
> Faidon
>
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