Yeah, makes sense. On 3 March 2015 at 20:38, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >>Agreed. Do we have a way of syncing files to Labs yet? > No need to sync if file is available in an endpoint like > htpp://some-data-here > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 3 March 2015 at 19:35, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Erik has asked me to write an exploratory app for user-agent data. The >> >>idea is to enable Product Managers and engineers to easily explore >> >>what users use so they know what to support. I've thrown up an example >> >>screenshot at http://ironholds.org/agents_example_screen.png >> > >> > I cannot speak as to the interest of community about this data but for >> > developers and PM we should make sure we have a solid way to update any >> > data >> > we put up. User Agent data is outdated as soon as a new version of >> > android >> > or iOs is released, a new popular phone comes along or a new autoupdate >> > for >> > popular browsers. Not only that, if we make changes to, say, redirect >> > all >> > iPad users to the desktop site we want to asses effect of those changes >> > as >> > soon as possible. A monthly update will be a must. Also distinguishing >> > between browser percentages on desktop site versus mobile site versus >> > apps >> > is a must for this data to be real useful for PMs and developers >> > (specially >> > for bug triage). >> > >> >> Yes! However, I am addressing a specific ad-hoc request. If there is a >> need for this (I agree there is) I hope Toby and Kevin can eke out the >> time on the Analytics Engineering schedule to work on it; y'all are a >> lot better at infrastructure work than me :). >> >> > >> > We have couple backlog items to make monthly reports on this regard. A >> > UI on >> > top of them will be superb. >> > >> >> Agreed. Do we have a way of syncing files to Labs yet? That's the >> biggest blocker. The UI doesn't care what the file contains as long as >> it's a TSV with a header row - I've deliberately built it so that >> things like the download links are dynamic and can change. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey all, >> >> >> >> (Sending this to the public list because it's more transparent and I'd >> >> like people who think this data is useful to be able to shout out) >> >> >> >> Erik has asked me to write an exploratory app for user-agent data. The >> >> idea is to enable Product Managers and engineers to easily explore >> >> what users use so they know what to support. I've thrown up an example >> >> screenshot at http://ironholds.org/agents_example_screen.png (I'd >> >> host it on Commons, inb4Dario, but I'm not sure the copyright status >> >> of the UI) >> >> >> >> One side-effect of this is that we end up with files of common user >> >> agents, split between {readers,editors} and {mobile, desktop}, parsed >> >> and unparsed. I'd like to release these files. The reuse potential is >> >> twofold; researchers and engineers can use the parsed files to see >> >> what browser penetration looks like globally and what browsers should >> >> be supported at a top-10, and software engineers can use the unparsed >> >> files to improve detection rates. >> >> >> >> The privacy implications /should/ be minimal, because of how this data >> >> is gathered. The editor data is gathered from the checkuser table, >> >> globally, and automatically excludes any user agent used by fewer than >> >> 50 distinct usernames. The reader data is gathered from a month of >> >> 1:1000 sampled log files, and excludes any agent responsible for fewer >> >> than 500 pageviews in a 24 hour period (except, sampled. So, >> >> practically speaking, that's 500,000 pageviews) >> >> >> >> What do people think about making this a data release? Would people >> >> get value from the data, as well as the tool? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Oliver Keyes >> >> Research Analyst >> >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Analytics mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Analytics mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Research Analyst >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >
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