Just to clarify; there is no need to ask me before making changes
(obviously I find my approval for pageviews changes being sought
incredibly flattering, but I am not the only person involved in this
project ;p). What I'm more driving towards is directly informing
customers when the definition is adapted.

On 17 August 2015 at 10:31, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Excellent; thank you.
>
> On 17 August 2015 at 04:42, Joseph Allemandou <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Oliver,
>>
>> It was a mistake from me to add the 'outreach' subdomain without asking you.
>>
>> From a documentation perspective, the analytics team uses that place to
>> document changes:
>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data/Webrequest and I didn't
>> know about up-to-date documentation you sent.
>>
>> Tickets have been created to both correct the bug and update the
>> documentation pages.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, I see the problem; someone patched it and never documented it.
>>>
>>> We have documentation at
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view/Generalised_filters
>>> of the generalised filters. There is also a log, on
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view, of changes to the
>>> pageview definition.
>>>
>>> The intent behind both the transparent definition and the log is to
>>> ensure that we know what is going /in/ the definition.
>>>
>>> In this case, somebody has patched the definition
>>>
>>> (https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/commit/cc0b6ed7e4f403eaa82235ec6a0f27152b0c2710)
>>> to include traffic from outreach.wikimedia.org - a site that was very
>>> deliberately and very explicitly excluded from the definition as it
>>> was written.
>>>
>>> There is no explanation of why this change was made, there is no
>>> documentation of this change even existing outside the actual Java....
>>> can someone please explain what this is for, and update all the
>>> documentation to reflect that? And then could people be very, very
>>> clear in future that it is expected there be a log of alterations you
>>> make to high-level KPIs beyond the, you know, commit logs.
>>>
>>> On 16 August 2015 at 14:32, Madhumitha Viswanathan
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > The new one.
>>> >
>>> > The code that generates it -
>>> >
>>> > -
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery/blob/master/hive/pageview/hourly/create_pageview_hourly_table.hql
>>> > -
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery/tree/master/oozie/pageview/hourly
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Is the pageviews_hourly table meant to contain pageviews according to
>>> >> the new or old definition? If old, where can I find aggregates for the
>>> >> new one?
>>> >>
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>>> >> Count Logula
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>>> >
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>>
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