Interesting - wonder why my query's giving a higher number? I agree entirely that we should be very careful with quoting these figures. I think you'd probably be safe to say that more than a million people have edited... but even then I'd be cautious.
Andrew. On 27 October 2015 at 11:11, Erik Zachte <[email protected]> wrote: > Wikistats has it that 5,644,681 registered accounts published at least once > till Oct 1, 2015, and 2,181,006 three or more times. > It used to publish that on [1][2] but I just removed it. > > I'm campaigning against us publishing overly inflated counts since about two > years (Wikimania London). > > Since this thread is going on and on, I'll repost my (reworded) reservations > on this particular metric, for newcomers. > > Even if we state explicitly that this is not unique people, any audience will > think it may be close and we are overly correct by adding the caveat. It may > not be so close. For that reason imo such a metric would be of questionable > value, to put it mildly. > > Pine: >> Is there a way to get counts for the number of accounts, including or >> excluding IPs, that have ever edited English Wikipedia, ? > > First the anon contributors: when we'd count every ip address that shows up > in the dumps, we'd count *very* many people who were just vandalizing > willfully, or just pressing edit for fun, or forgot to login once, and also > moved from one ip address to another over the years. On top of that many > people get a new ip address (from a pool) on every session, depends on > provider policy. > > As for registered editors the number Wikistats used to publish may be a > rather empty metric for several reasons: > - How many casual editors will have forgotten their password and just created > a new user id? Only veteran editors know about sockpuppeting and how one is > supposed not to do that. > - How many people will have registered in good faith just out of habit, or to > tweak presentation preferences, and then played with the edit button just to > see what happens? Note that roughly 2 out of 3 accounts doesn't even reach 3 > edits. > > Cheers, > Erik Zachte > > [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#editdistribution > [2] BTW I use the term wikipedians overly inclusive in that report. A person > who edited once or twice isn't a wikipedian in my book, just like a person > who writes two post-it notes per month and nothing else isn't called a > writer. Some terms only apply above some threshold. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Analytics [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Andrew Gray > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:06 > To: A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an > interest in Wikipedia and analytics. > Subject: Re: [Analytics] User statistics for video marking ENWP 5m article > milestone > > To a very crude approximation, there are approximately 8.2 million accounts > which have at least one edit on English Wikipedia - at least assuming my SQL > query is correct! http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/1911 > > This is all user accounts with one or more edits in the contributions record; > it does not contain IPs, and it does not contain any accounts whose sole > contributions have since been deleted (which is probably quite a substantial > number). Conversely, it includes a vast panoply of single-use vandalism > accounts, sockpuppets, etc etc etc. And bots, of course. > > Andrew. > > On 27 October 2015 at 05:50, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote: >> Is there a way to get counts for the number of accounts, including or >> excluding IPs, that have ever edited English Wikipedia, ? It would be >> preferable to know the number of unique people, but of course that's >> impossible. >> >> Thanks, >> Pine >> >> Aha, that is important for me to know. Thanks Andrew. >> >> Pine >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Andrew Gray >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 11 September 2015 at 19:19, James Forrester >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> Does it include editors on all Wikimedia projects >>> > >>> > No. >>> > >>> >> or just those who have registered and/or edited on ENWP? >>> > >>> > Registered, regardless of having edited. >>> >>> James is of course correct, but one small caveat worth adding: >>> because of SUL, a substantial proportion of these will be "autocreated" >>> accounts from other projects - so even 'registration' may not mean >>> what it seems. >>> >>> -- >>> - Andrew Gray >>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> > > > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics -- - Andrew Gray [email protected] _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
