On Tuesday, November 10, 2015, Felix J. Scholz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Does this mean there is a significant break in continuity for the older
> (pre 05/2015) stats efforts such as pagecounts-raw [1] and
> pagecounts-all-sites?
>
> [1] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/
> [2] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-all-sites/
>

No, those files are intact and will continue to be generated until we have
a conversation about how we're going to clean up this fairly confusing
situation.  Look for that discussion starting soon, we will link to it from
the dumps.wikimedia.org/other page and post it on this list as well.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> >Any ideas about why there is such a big difference between the old and
>> new numbers?
>> I guess you missed the banner which explains the main differences among
>> definitions.  I have copy pasted it below.
>>
>> Please take a look at the new definition here:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
>> The new definition has significant updates from the legacy one.
>>
>> <banner>
>>
>> In the old situation spider/crawler traffic (from search engines) wasn't
>> filtered (a known issue, we needed hadoop to make this possible).
>> Those requests made up almost 20% of total page 'views' on Wikipedia, and
>> even much more on sister projects (details will follow)
>> Obviously the top table row, with year-over-year changes, doesn't make
>> sense until the new pageview definition will have been in effect for at
>> least a year. That feature is now temporarily disabled.
>>
>> Also, the new data stream does exclude housekeeping traffic (mainly used
>> for fundraising banners).
>> As usage grew these so called HideBanner requests became far more
>> numerous even than actual traffic on smaller Wikimedia projects (not on
>> Wikipedia).
>> We will update the reports soon, to make the impact of this 'pollution'
>> visible, which affected much of 2014 and first four months of 2015.
>>
>> </banner>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Pine W <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> IIRC from the previous numbers showing about 8.5B pageviews for ENWP
>>> recently (I think that stat was for Sept), it looks like the new number
>>> shows a major drop to 7.5B. Any ideas about why there is such a big
>>> difference between the old and new numbers?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pine
>>> On Nov 10, 2015 2:02 PM, "Dan Andreescu" <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> \o/
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> The analytics team wishes to announce that we have finally
>>>>> transitioned several of the pageview reports in stats.wikimedia.org  to
>>>>> the new pageview definition [1]. This means that we should no longer have
>>>>> two conflicting sources of pageview numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> While we are not not fully done transitioning pageview reports we feel
>>>>> this is an important enough milestone that warrants some communication. 
>>>>> BIG
>>>>> Thanks to Erik Z. for his work on this project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look at a report using the new definition (a banner is
>>>>> present when report has been updated)
>>>>> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
>>>>>
>>>>>
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