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On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >I'd hypothesize, for example, that IE is used much less outside of the
>> article and portal namespaces.
>> You mean "editing" versus "reading" traffic?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Madhumitha Viswanathan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Marcel is totally right! If you want to do one off analyses for specific
>>> pages or namespaces though(like browser breakdown for namespace User: on
>>> enwiki - main namespace may not be possible), that may be possible if you
>>> run some queries in our Hive store. Do you have access to
>>> stat1002(analytics-privatedata-users group)? If not you can request access
>>> as per https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Cluster/Access and
>>> we can help you run some one off calculations.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Amir,
>>>>
>>>> Would it be crazy to ask for statistics of user agents per page or per
>>>>> namespace?
>>>>
>>>> I'd hypothesize, for example, that IE is used much less outside of the
>>>>> article and portal namespaces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it's crazy. I +1 your hypothesis :]
>>>> But, yes, I see it difficult to implement:
>>>>
>>>>    - The new user-agent breakdown reports (browser-reports.wmflabs.org)
>>>>    are derived from the pageview_hourly table which comes from the 
>>>> webrequest
>>>>    table, both in hadoop. None of them has structured information about the
>>>>    namespace. It should be parsed from the URL or other fields, but the
>>>>    namespaces have different names in different languages, so this would be
>>>>    very tricky.
>>>>
>>>>    - Breaking down the user-agent statistics per article would be also
>>>>    very expensive computationally, given the high number of articles. The
>>>>    Pageview API shows pageviews per article, and to reach this we Analytics
>>>>    have had to solve storage and data loading and compression problems, 
>>>> that
>>>>    arose from the big size of that data. Having user-agent breakdown per
>>>>    article would mean multiplying the size of that by a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm missing an easier way to do it, but it seems it would take a
>>>> long time to solve this.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would it be crazy to ask for statistics of user agents per page or per
>>>>> namespace?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd hypothesize, for example, that IE is used much less outside of the
>>>>> article and portal namespaces.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you're wondering what is it useful for: When I have a patch
>>>>> that requires browser compatibility trickery, I may want to invest less
>>>>> time in IE compatibility in a page that is unlikely to be viewed in IE 
>>>>> much.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
>>>>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>>>>> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>>>>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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