Hi Joseph. Perhaps these approximations could already provide me valuable
information. If it is possible to distinguish between mobile and pc visits,
then I could filter the mobile and keep the more reliable pc-based data.

This is all I wanted to know by now to prepare my project. In case I need
to progress with it, I will contact you. Thank you very much for the
answer.

Cheers,
Marc



El dc., 29 juny 2016 a les 10:24, Joseph Allemandou (<
[email protected]>) va escriure:

> Hi Marc,
>
> The information you're after is not available in the data we collect, for
> at least two reasons
>
>    - We don't collect data allowing to detect user sessions (no id-cookie
>    or identifier)
>    - We don't collect time spent on page
>
> Approximations could be made using finger-printing techniques as a proxy
> for sessions (with an important error on mobile due to ip-pooling), and
> successive events as boundaries for time spent on page.
> These approximations would in any case need an NDA.
>
> Cheers
> Joseph
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Marc Miquel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the answer, Oliver. But I am not sure it answers my
>> questions. I'd like to study aspects like how much time is spent in
>> certain pages, as a proxy of how content is approached/read/understood. I'd
>> be happy with time of entering the page, time of leaving. This is not
>> entirely centered on 'user activity', but I said that because I imagined
>> data would be stored in a similar way to editor sessions, or in a database
>> and I would need to do the time calculations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> El dc., 29 juny, 2016 03:11, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> va
>> escriure:
>>
>>> If historic data is okay, there's already a dataset released (
>>> https://figshare.com/articles/Activity_Sessions_datasets/1291033) that
>>> was designed specifically to answer questions around how to best calculate
>>> session length with regards to Wikipedia (http://arxiv.org/abs/1411.2878
>>> )
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Marc Miquel <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about user sessions, yes, so this would mean to
>>>> aggregate pageviews visited by a user during a short amount of time (I
>>>> should check the cutoff, but it could be around an hour or less).
>>>>
>>>> I am particularly interested in understanding the order in which pages
>>>> are seen (start, end), duration, etc.
>>>> I wouldn't need data from a long period neither, but I think data from
>>>> multiple languages would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> I imagined reader data could be sensitive to privacy, but would an NDA
>>>> with my university and some sort of data encoding help with this? As I
>>>> said, it is for a scientific purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>> El dt., 28 juny 2016 a les 21:09, Nuria Ruiz (<[email protected]>)
>>>> va escriure:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> >I am considering to study reader engagement for different article
>>>>> topics in different languages. Because of this, I would like to know if
>>>>> there is >any plan to make available pageviews dumps detailing activity 
>>>>> log
>>>>> at session level per user - in a similar way to editor sessions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you thinking of "all-pageviews-visited-by-a-certain-user"? If so,
>>>>> no we do not have any projects to provide that data as due to privacy
>>>>> concerns we neither have nor keep that information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Leila Zia <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> + Analytics
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Marc Miquel <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a question for you regarding pageviews datadumps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am considering to study reader engagement for different article
>>>>>>> topics in different languages. Because of this, I would like to know if
>>>>>>> there is any plan to make available pageviews dumps detailing activity 
>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>> at session level per user - in a similar way to editor sessions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since this would be for a research project I might ask funding for
>>>>>>> it, I would like to know if I could count on that, what is the nature of
>>>>>>> the available data, and what would be the procedure to obtain this data 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> if there would be any implication because of privacy concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marc Miquel
>>>>>>> ᐧ
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