Thanks a lot MusikAnimal for those explanations, this helps (me!) a lot :) Joseph
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Leon Ziemba <[email protected]> wrote: > TL;DR, see [1] for the chart on the old page and new page. > > By default the search uses the native autocompletion, which is usually > what you want. E.g. if you search for "Barak Obama" you will see very few > pageviews when most people actually wanted "Barack Obama". You can change > this behaviour by going to the Settings > "Search method" > "Autocompletion > including redirects". I still had trouble pulling it up with that setting > though, something I'm not sure I can fix, as it seems to be an issue with > the search API. In most cases however "Autocompletion including redirects" > should reveal what you want, otherwise you could try "No autocompletion". > > Anyway here's data for both the old location and new: [1]. There is some > overlap because when you browse to a redirect, it will count as a pageview > for the redirect itself, and not for the target article. If you want all > pageviews, including redirects, consider using the "Redirect Views" tool: > [2] > > You probably are thinking to yourself that you always want redirects to be > included, but doing so does not ensure completely accurate data. For > instance, those redirects could have at some point in the past gone to a > different article. So you'd then be getting (probably slightly) inaccurate > numbers. There are talks of tackling this issue in the API itself, see [3]. > In addition some pages have lots of redirects which could noticeably slow > down the tool. > > Another possible solution is to query the page move log. This is something > I hope to actually do at some point, you can follow the ticket on > Phabricator for updates [4]. This may be quite challenging, since there are > some edge cases where the move log will steer you wrong and you end up > querying the wrong pages. > > Sorry for my excessive tech jargon, if it comes off that way :) Until we > have a better way of handling this, first make sure you have the "Search > method" set to "Autocomplete including redirects" or "No autocompletion", > then simply type in the old page title. > > > Hope this helps, > > ~MA > > > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr. > wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last- > year&pages=Batman_v_Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_Justice| > Batman_v_Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_justice > <https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last-year&pages=Batman_v_Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_Justice%7CBatman_v_Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_justice> > [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/redirectviews/?project=fr. > wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last- > year&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&page=Batman_v_ > Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_justice > [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121912 > [4] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141332 > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Joseph Allemandou < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Gheorghe, >> >> Thanks for your message and support :) >> The reason the page had no views before 4/29/2016is because its name has >> changed that day [1], and we collect pageviews by name. >> >> You can find the raw data using direct API calls ([2] for new name, [3] >> for old name, only capital J differs ...), but I have not found a way to >> view it properly with the pageviews tool. >> Being able to request titles that are not current pages could be an >> interesting feature request -- Ping @MusikAnimal ;) >> >> Cheers ! >> Joseph >> >> [1] https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Batman_v_Superman >> _%3A_L%27Aube_de_la_justice&type=revision&diff=125734639&oldid=125727682 >> [2] https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/per- >> article/fr.wikipedia/all-access/user/Batman_v_Superman_%3A_ >> L'Aube_de_la_justice/daily/2015010100/2016123100 >> [3] https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/pageviews/per- >> article/fr.wikipedia/all-access/user/Batman_v_Superman_%3A_ >> L'Aube_de_la_Justice/daily/2015010100/2016123100 >> >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Gheorghe Postelnicu < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> First of all, thank you for providing such a wealth of information >>> regarding Wikipedia usage. This is really interesting. >>> >>> I was browsing the pageviews visualization provided by wmflabs and >>> noticed a particular case which surprised. The FR page for *Batman v >>> Superman *seems to have received no visit whasoever before 4/29/2016: >>> >>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.wikipedia.or >>> g&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last-year&pages=Batma >>> n_v_Superman_:_L%27Aube_de_la_justice >>> >>> However, the page existed as early as 2014: >>> >>> https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Batman_v_Superman >>> _:_L%27Aube_de_la_justice&dir=prev&action=history >>> >>> and similar pages in IT or ES show quite a lot of views: >>> >>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=it.wikipedia.or >>> g&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last-year&pages=Batma >>> n_v_Superman:_Dawn_of_Justice >>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=es.wikipedia.or >>> g&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=last-year&pages=Batma >>> n_v_Superman:_Dawn_of_Justice >>> >>> Any idea why the complete lack of pageviews for the FR page? Even if for >>> some reason the page was not very popular in FR, shouldn't it have received >>> at least some views? >>> >>> Many thanks in advance for any ideas, >>> Gheorghe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Joseph Allemandou* >> Data Engineer @ Wikimedia Foundation >> IRC: joal >> >> >> > -- *Joseph Allemandou* Data Engineer @ Wikimedia Foundation IRC: joal
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