[Leia, thanks for binding to initial thread.]

I used suggested tool at the approximately top ten the most visited
pages at Czech Wikipedia. The result
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QSC5-zgD8SXVAUVa0O93rrDix9tuv8AWhBgSC9ts-_A/edit?usp=sharing>
is interesting. The ratio between visitors of the page and corresponding
discussion is huge. It's under distinctive ability of the advertising
agencies (CPI <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_per_impression> per
week). As seems MediaWiki is resistant against embedded ads based on
user names by design. Good news, I think.

Wikidata. My question "Wikidata Query and Wikipedia statistics/meta
informations" and responses were deleted by the bot
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3ARequest_a_query&diff=prev&oldid=696548052>.

Lada ;?


On 2018-06-12 20:18, Leila Zia wrote:
> [coming back from a private response to the public list, with
> Ladislav's permission.]
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:03 AM Ladislav Nešněra
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Re: to https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2018-May/006349.html
>>
>> Hi Leila,
>> I'm sorry for the delay but I'm not subscriber of this forum and 
>> registration doesn't work for me :-O 
>> (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics). It means - I had 
>> no signal about your answer.
> No worries. I understand you're in now. :)
>
>> Yes, I'd like to know something about user behaviour. This paragraph limits 
>> user names based on potential abuse for promotional purpose. Would be fine 
>> to know how many users reach the pages where they can see user names 
>> (=discussion + history of the article + history of the discussion). Ideally 
>> separate human readers and editors. Is it possible?
> There is no immediate data available I can think of to point you, too
> (others should feel free, of course, to provide pointers):
>
> * If you're interested in anecdotal evidence: The easiest way I can
> think of that you can visually see this information would be using
> pageviews analysis tool [1].
> * A properly set-up analysis will need to look at the pageviews to the
> destinations you mentioned before/after the change, controlling for
> seasonality, pageview changes over time, etc.
> * Separating editor pageviews vs. reader pageviews will be hard and
> that's by design. Even if we can set aside time to run this analysis
> for you, this can only be done over the data in the past 90 days (at
> most) and I would need to see a relatively strong editor community
> support for doing it. (We generally don't do in-depth analysis of what
> editors read, so some discussion is needed to make that happen.)
> * If you decide to pursue the above, please communicate the priority
> of this question on your end to help us prioritize. For example, is
> there a community discussion pending on this result? How important is
> that discussion? etc.
>
>> And one related question - Wikidata Query and Wikipedia statistics.
> [Link: 
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Request_a_query#Wikidata_Query_and_Wikipedia_statistics/meta_informations]
>
> I'll let others who know more answer the question above, my guess
> would be what's already said in the link above.
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
>> Thank you in advance for your time  ;?
>
> [1] 
> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Cat|Dog
>
>>
>> On 2018-05-29 00:59, Ladislav Nešněra wrote:
>>
>> Dear analytic team ;),
>>
>> I'd like to know if the policy about promotional user names solve real 
>> problem or if this problem was only anticipated in 2007.
>> Is it possible to get statistic which distinguish between article visitors 
>> and people which can see potential promotion names i.e. discussion + history 
>> of the article + history of discussion? It'd by ideal exclude editors (it's 
>> hard to influence a persons familiar with the subject contrariwise they've 
>> be annoyed by promoting) but I don't believe it would be a significant 
>> difference.
>> Can you help me or can you direct me into the right way, please?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your time
>>
>>     Ladislav Nešněra   ;?
>>     +420 721 658 256
>>
>>
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