Thanks Dan! I am looking forward to the the across all wikis metric! Yay! On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 2:15 PM Dan Andreescu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Some near to mid-term changes that might be useful for everyone chiming in: > > * Active Editors across all wikis is a metric we're working on, and it > will be part of Wikistats 2 sometime this fiscal year > * The new mediawiki history dataset will let you download data for all > wikis and crunch these numbers and much more: > https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/mediawiki_history/readme.html (we're > close to publishing this but there's sample data for last August) > > Maybe a little showcase talk is in order once the above two are completed? > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:09 PM Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia >> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. Any >> thoughts on that? >> I think it will help to give a bit of an example of why you are looking >> to find this information, why is it important. Participating in a wiki >> includes other things besides editions (translations for or software >> commits to features used on that one wiki, for example) so a precise >> comparison of one wiki ecosystem to the rest is quite a task. >> >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:58 PM Jonathan Morgan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> (Last reply to both lists; sorry for the spam) >>> >>> This sounds like it'd be a bit of work to build, and I don't think there >>> are curated datasets to help out. I think you would need to... >>> >>> 1. get the count of active editors on Meta for [PERIOD OF TIME]. Easy. >>> 2. perform a query or parse dumps to get the *list *of active editors >>> from every individual Wikimedia project for the same [PERIOD OF TIME]. Hard. >>> 3. de-duplicate that list (since many people edit multiple wikis in a >>> given say, month, and you don't want to overcount). Pretty easy. >>> 4. compare the resulting all-projects count with the Meta-only count. >>> Easy. >>> >>> This sounds like a lot of work to me! Again, there might be tools or >>> resources for this that already exist, but I'm not aware of them. >>> >>> It seems like having topline/platform-level counts for active editors >>> could be useful, as a dashboard or a public dataset. You might try >>> requesting >>> this as a feature >>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/?title=Wikistats%20New%20Feature&projectPHIDs=Analytics-Wikistats,Analytics> >>> for WikiStats. The worst they can say is "no", or "not yet" :) >>> >>> - J >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:34 PM RhinosF1 - <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I’ve just seen the replies and thanks to everyone whose replied. >>>> >>>> I was looking to try and work out what percent lf the active wikimedia >>>> community are participating on meta and comparing to another wiki farm. >>>> Any >>>> thoughts on that? >>>> >>>> RhinosF1 >>>> >>>> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > It doesn't look like Active Editors works for all wikis. I think >>>> you'd >>>> > have to merge activity across all wikis to get a stat like that. I'm >>>> not >>>> > sure I know of a good data strategy to get that. >>>> > >>>> > If you were to query it with quarry, you'd need to write a query for >>>> every >>>> > wiki and then write some code to merge the results. Oof. >>>> > >>>> > If you to extract it from the XML dumps, you'd need to process each >>>> Wiki >>>> > separately and then merge the results. Oof. >>>> > >>>> > The best solution to this is to have a common table/relation across >>>> all >>>> > Wikis and to aggregate from there. I don't think there's any such >>>> > cross-wiki table/relation available. >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Jonathan Morgan <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Same dashboard, but for "All wikis": >>>> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/all-projects >>>> > > >>>> > > That work? >>>> > > >>>> > > - J >>>> > > >>>> > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:32 AM RhinosF1 - <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > > Hi, >>>> > > > >>>> > > > That provides active users for meta but not globally. Anything for >>>> > > global? >>>> > > > >>>> > > > RhinosF1 >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:10, Jonathan Morgan < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > > RhinosF1, >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Are you looking for information like this >>>> > > > > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/meta.wikimedia.org>, or >>>> something >>>> > > > > different? >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > - J >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:51 AM RhinosF1 - <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Hi, >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Does anyone know a way to find out how many wikimedia users >>>> are >>>> > > active >>>> > > > > > globally compared to active on metawiki? >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > This mean they've made more than 5 edits in the last 30 days >>>> for >>>> > > this. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Thanks, >>>> > > > > > RhinosF1 >>>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > > > > Analytics mailing list >>>> > > > > > [email protected] >>>> > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > -- >>>> > > > > Jonathan T. 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