Hi Ryan and Dan,

Thanks for such a prompt response to my email - I really appreciate it.

Ryan - while the definition of pageviews has changed over the years, do you
think that these changes in definitions significantly impact the overall
pageview trends we might observe?

Dan - thank you for the pointers! I definitely think that edits per article
can give me insight into which articles were attracting more of the many
editors' attention, which is telling especially when Wikipedia content was
initially being built up. Thank you for spending the time to dig up the
archived traffic analysis report - I was actually thinking of using
clickstream data to track how temporal shifts in referral origins might
contribute to the attention that Wikipedia articles experience. Since I
believe the collected clickstream data starts from 2015, these statistics
give me a baseline that I can use of what these distributions looked like
in 2011.

Thanks again for all of your help, time and feedback!

Best,

Emily

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:37 AM Dan Andreescu <dandree...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Emily, I believe the pagecount data was never collected in a structured
> way before 2007.  See for example this discussion about some archive data
> that took some pains to uncover: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232563
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__phabricator.wikimedia.org_T232563&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=L28nNkR1PtjB2SmfWmCyJg&m=DFMx9qCgoTHiMWveeKqffXxSpJgL6xFb5aOg725giXo&s=_OhvvSpN70SngTAQk94EiJTCdmXUsxX_MVniOsj5WP0&e=>
>
> If edits per article would work as a proxy for attention, or in
> combination with views you can extrapolate somehow, we are in the process
> of vetting and releasing a simple full history of editing on all wikis:
> https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/mediawiki_history/readme.html
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dumps.wikimedia.org_other_mediawiki-5Fhistory_readme.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=L28nNkR1PtjB2SmfWmCyJg&m=DFMx9qCgoTHiMWveeKqffXxSpJgL6xFb5aOg725giXo&s=Gh8Li-GjhhVxqpT-DaDV8jVSfT2SGvBDghJPlqaWb9s&e=>
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> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:52 AM Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Note that the definition of pageviews has changed several times over the
>> years. Only the data from 2015 to present is strictly comparable. I'm sure
>> some data analysts will chime in with more details. Good luck with your
>> project!
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Emily Chen <echen...@usc.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My name is Emily Chen and I'm a Computer Science Ph.D. student at the
>> University of Southern California. I tried sending this email earlier
>> before I had joined the mailer, so apologies if this email was sent out
>> twice! I'm currently conducting research on collective attention decay in
>> Wikipedia articles that are more heavily cited by other Wikipedia articles
>> within the Wikipedia ecosystem. This work builds upon the observations made
>> in Candia et al's paper on "The universal decay of collective memory and
>> attention
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nature.com_articles_s41562-2D018-2D0474-2D5_&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=L28nNkR1PtjB2SmfWmCyJg&m=3zQGbMO5CmRLzz0FfWu7BXNsaJO9bff2gb1F5xG8EB8&s=tViSDkiMKEu9TZRabpoJ3dZ-BjHniCvK_5KtxIEVXts&e=>",
>> and I have been using the number of page views articles receive as a proxy
>> for attention.
>>
>> From what I can find, there is a maintained page view data set on
>> dumps.wikipmedia.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dumps.wikipmedia.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=L28nNkR1PtjB2SmfWmCyJg&m=3zQGbMO5CmRLzz0FfWu7BXNsaJO9bff2gb1F5xG8EB8&s=UtOnWjAQWI4l2Mz9WGXCjzGTD1DyHmyToCBOcoipq3c&e=>
>> that spans 2011-current, and statistics that Domas Mituzas began collecting
>> from 2007 - 2016. This data seems to capture the gradual decay in an
>> individual article's pageviews, but doesn't capture the initial growth of
>> an article's page views. Would you happen to know if there are article page
>> view statistics from the earlier years of Wikipedia (2001-2007) or if there
>> are any general page view statistics from that time frame? Or would you
>> happen to know who I could contact for such a dataset? It would be really
>> interesting to study the temporal page view dynamics over Wikipedia's
>> lifespan alongside my current work in collective attention.
>>
>> Thank you so much for your time!
>>
>> Best,
>> Emily Chen
>>
>>
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>> University of Southern California
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