Well David all people when discussing an issue have a bias of their individual 
thought on the issue. Mozeson identifies his bias as a belief in God and His 
work at the tower of Babel. His work stems from and tries to prove that since 
Hebrew words appear in most of the languages of the world, then it follows that 
is a good evidence the event did happen and the Biblical account is true.

He does state in the video that his theories are too avante guard for most 
academics. In your post, Babel is not even considered as a possibility so I 
will assume you are one of those academics.

Your bias is indicated by the following "I believe in general the evidence that 
Mozeson [Edenics, The Word, etc..] and his students uncover isdue to the spread 
of Hebrew and Arabic through Theologians traveling the world in the last 2,000 
years bringing with them Hebrew and Greek. Many Anglo Saxon words are of Hebrew 
origin: Love < LB, over < ober < OBR (o for ayin), child < jild* < YLD, earth < 
erets < ARC /arech/ or /arets/, error < ARR. And on and on, many many words" 

Except for English, most languages do not add very many words percentage wise 
to have any noticeable effect through conntact. In most cases when a new word 
is adopted through contact the original word is also kept. So contacts effects 
are additional not substitutional.

The real proof of who is right would be evidence that these Hebrew word roots 
and confusions of words from Hebrew as described from the Babel story  do or do 
not go back to the beginnings of these languages, since the Babel story 
includes an actual dispersal of peoples into nations around the world all at 
once. Archeology has already indicated that possibility though you will not see 
it given much press because the truth is uncomfortable for most academics 
especially where it gives credence to the Bible. To uncover enough evidence for 
that to be proved is a giant undertaking. Where will Mozeson get the kind of 
funding necessary to thoroughly prove his thoeries? Those who are eager to 
attack his ideas should bear some burden of contribution to fund and examine 
this theory.

My bias is a strong belief in God and Hebrew as His Word. The Bible codes alone 
in the 49 letter sequences of the five books of the Torah which spell out TORH 
for Genesis and Exodus, then YWVH for Leviticus, and HROT for Numbers and 
Deuteronomy were enough to convince me Hebrew in some early pictographic form 
is God's language and the root of all language. I find it interesting as well 
if you lay these books on a table in order with Leviticus in the middle and you 
consider the books on the left as west and the books on the right as east you 
will notice the word arrangements above match the fact that all eastern 
languages read write to left and western languages read left to right, hmmm. 
I'll stick with Mozeson until someone can actually prove him wrong.

Respectfully

 
Rollin Shultz
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From: david_89793 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 11:46:45 PM
Subject: [ancient_hebrew] Re: Tracing Chinese, American, and Hebrew Language 
Origins - Tower of Babel?

  
There are two ways that languages are related, 1. related by language contact, 
or mixing or mass borrowing of words or even grammatical features [see 
Thomason, Language Contact]; 2. related "genetically" when groups split and 
language changes over time until you have different groups speaking different 
dialects of the same language [see Ruhlen, The Origin of Language]

I believe in general the evidence that Mozeson [Edenics, The Word, etc..] and 
his students uncover is due to the spread of Hebrew and Arabic through 
Theologians traveling the world in the last 2,000 years bringing with them 
Hebrew and Greek. Many Anglo Saxon words are of Hebrew origin: Love < LB, over 
< ober < OBR (o for ayin), child < jild* < YLD, earth < erets < ARC /arech/ or 
/arets/, error < ARR. And on and on, many many words.

Some corrections need to be made in Mozeson's work; I don't have the study in 
front of me but I found a different etymology for 'skull' which is related to 
words in Greek and Latin which come from Egpytian, which is related to a 
particular Hebrew word, I do not recall at the moment. I posted the study on 
historicallinguisti cs yahoo groups.

In the event of languages mixing, at times much vocabulary is lost and new word 
formations must be developed; so new word formations can only be traced back to 
particular roots in a given language. But ultimately roots are traceable to 
their parent language. It may be that a root in one language is derived from a 
word form that was created in a parent language from another prior root. so it 
may be difficult to trace many roots back to Hebrew.

But Imperial Aramaic and Hebrew clearly have a common parent language. I am 
going to demonstrate that Egyptian and Hebrew clearly have a common parent 
language. see peripheralegyptolog y yahoo group.

The nature of word formation of the original language can be reconstructed by 
following such work as Benner's work. Above other scholars I believe Benner has 
gotten the logic of the original nature of word formation correct.

>From 3000 BC to 2,000 or 1,000 BC languages must have appeared more 
>genetically related. But from 1,000 BC to 1,000 AD language change must have 
>been dominated by language contact and mixing.

Dave

--- In ancient_hebrew@ yahoogroups. com, "j.rothlander@ ..." <j.rothlander@ 
...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I found the forum and website very interesting and wanted to post something 
> about what brought me to the site and if anyone else was curious about the 
> connections between some of the original languages such as Chinese and Mayan 
> in relationship to Hebrew. What I find unique is that if you take a Babel 
> approach to other languages that did not evolve directly from Hebrew, as 
> would be expected in a Babel type experience; you find some interesting 
> things that might lend support to a Biblical approach to history versus the 
> secular idea that the story is just a fairy tale. 
> 
> 
etc......... ......... .


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