ShLM  Samuel Gyamfi

Please find  a link to a copy of Learn to Read
Biblical Hebrew 

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/bookstore/e-books/lbh.pdf

This will help you get started

Rich
AHRC

--- In [email protected], Shmouel <samuel_abet...@...> wrote:
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> Dear Rollin and All,
>                             Please Rollin I wrote 
> you privately recently . I did not get any reply. I still reply upon it 
> coming,though, I will like to ask members here too.
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> Shlama! Fellow Hebrews and students of Torah, I humble request your 
> assistance in an effort to support a small study group here Ghana. I will be 
> glad if  you who can help me with a beginner book--for Hebrew language. A 
> book like Teach yourself Hebrew.
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> I live in seclusion. I am trying to fellowship with some friends,and they are 
> interested IN studyING basic Hebrew together with me. And I will like to help 
> them. Its seems their interest in the group is high and the group's face is 
> lifted when we dig into Hebrew Discovery Learning. Please kindly help us.
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> I will be glad to hear from you.
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> samuel_abet...@...
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> Sincerely,
> Samuel Gyamfi
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> --- On Tue, 18/5/10, Rollin Shultz <rollinshu...@...> wrote:
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> From: Rollin Shultz <rollinshu...@...>
> Subject: Re: [ancient_hebrew] Re: Edenics, Ugaritic & Arabic
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010, 20:09
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> Assalamu alaikum Abu
> Your welcome and my thanks to you as well.
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> I do not know how qualified I am to answer your questions as I am only a 
> student of Hebrew for about 14 weeks and only know a litttle of Arabic picked 
> up from Syrian friends and Persian music. By your name I would say by birth 
> you are closer to the se languages than I and as such have a decided 
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> I do not see anything to convince me of Hebrew or Ugaritic phonemes and how 
> anyone can do anything but guess at them especially in the case of the 
> cuneifornm Ugaritic. In the case of Arabic I will asssume the knowedge comes 
> from an unbroken usage through the last 3,000 years history. I think much 
> could be borrowed then from Arabic in the case of Hebrew to come up with 
> Hebrew phonemes but I still think it is guesswork.
> "Also you completely left off addressing the issue of phonology. Hebrew 
> phonology is very different from the original Semitic phonology, and has lost 
> in all about 7 different letters from it's repertoire. An interesting point 
> is that the exact same merges which occur in Hebrew, Aramaic etc. can be seen 
> in spoken vernaculars of some Arabic countries today. thaa is merged into sin 
> or taa and thal is merged into dal or zayin (as in Aramaic and Hebrew 
> respectively) ."
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> My answer to this statement is:"Another thing to keep in mind is that Arabs, 
> even the non-Ishmaelite ones were descendants of Eber as well, so technically 
> they were "Hebrews" as well if we are to accept that etymology of the word. 
> Although in my opinion the word Hebrew does not come from this person's name, 
> but from the verb in both Arabic and Hebrew (and most other Semitic 
> languages) ayin-baa-raa which means to "cross over". As the Hebrews were the 
> desert nomads (Arabs if you will) that "crossed over" into Canaan/Egypt and 
> settled there, out of the original bedouin homeland of the Semitic peoples in 
> the Arabian peninsula."
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> I am unconvinced the name Hebrew comes from the lengthening of the name Eber. 
> Its first mention in the Torah is after Abraham moves to the valley of the 
> Oaks of Mamre and establishes or absorbs the city of Hebron. It is more 
> likely surrounding residents tagged them as Hebrews for living in Hebron
>  than anything else.
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> Since I am just starting out on the semitic language path I have much 
> catching up to do. I will always just as in the hard physical sciences use 
> the Torah as my "frame of reference". I did have a problem many years ago 
> with the creation account of the earth being created in six days but I tried 
> to look at it different ways for different possibilities and ended up 
> shelving it for future reference. hen science caught up and it was proven how 
> the 15.8 billion year old universe was most likely created in six days 
> through the implementation of Einsteins's theories of space time. All 
> knowledge we need is in the Torah, yet we tend to ignore it for many years 
> until one day science catches up and then we say Ohh. I think if many of our 
> ancestors had consulted the Torah in the building of the nations we could 
> have skipped the industrial age and made the world a much safer place.
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> Toda, 
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>  Rollin Shultz
> Mechanical designer
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> Allentown, Pa 18104 
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> Motto: Ask for help when needed, help others when asked, and remember where 
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> Happy moments, PRAISE GOD, Difficult moments, SEEK GOD, Quiet moments, 
> WORSHIP GOD, Painful moments, TRUST GOD, Every moment, THANK GOD 
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> From: abur1924 <abur1...@yahoo. com.au>
> To: ancient_hebrew@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 6:58:57 PM
> Subject: [ancient_hebrew] Re: Edenics, Ugaritic & Arabic
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> Rollin Thanks for your reply.
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> Generally languages do not add things like case systems. Also the fact the 
> case system exists in Arabic and Akkadian and Ugaritic and remnants of it 
> exist in the other Semitic languages tends to indicate strongly it was a 
> feature which was slowly worn down and discarded within the languages that no 
> longer have it. I don't think there's a single case of a language just 
> spontaneously forming a case system. It's something which is intrinsic within 
> the language, and which would be very difficult to integrate at a later date. 
> And it's not even necessary for language, so generally languages do not 
> create features that they don't need, when they got by fine without them 
> before. It's for this reason that I also believe that language is God given, 
> since the complexity within it could not have just evolved out of grunts and 
> snorts as the evolutionists would have us believe. I also think it's most 
> likely the Semitic languages
>  were the original languages too, but Hebrew simply isn't the pristine form 
> of a Semitic language, no matter how you look at it. It is far from it.
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> Also you completely left off addressing the issue of phonology. Hebrew 
> phonology is very different from the original Semitic phonology, and has lost 
> in all about 7 different letters from it's repertoire. An interesting point 
> is that the exact same merges which occur in Hebrew, Aramaic etc. can be seen 
> in spoken vernaculars of some Arabic countries today. thaa is merged into sin 
> or taa and thal is merged into dal or zayin (as in Aramaic and Hebrew 
> respectively) .
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> A big problem for those who consider Hebrew the original language or even 
> original Semitic language is that once Ugaritic was discovered, the evidence 
> was overwhelming and now corroborated, even though many Semitists already 
> realised Arabic was much more conservative long before then anyway. Since 
> Ugaritic agreed completely phonetically
>  with Arabic, yet the two languages are quite distinct. Ugaritic shares much 
> more in common with Hebrew as far as vocabulary and language style go, yet 
> phonetically and grammatically it contains the almost the exact same range of 
> letters and grammatical complexity we see in Arabic. Since the two languages 
> were so far apart in time and distance, the only possible explanation is that 
> they both retained close to the full set of Semitic sounds. Sabaean (Sheba) 
> and other southern Semitic languages also confirm these findings. We also 
> have the early Greek translations of the Tanakh, which tranlsliterate some 
> words with the original sounds, exactly as they appear in Arabic and 
> Ugaritic. For instance, in Hebrew ghayin and ayin have merged, yet at the 
> time of the early Greek translations they must've still been pronounced 
> separately, since the Greek transliteration of words containing the ghayin 
> phoneme in Arabic and Ugaritic, render it as gh from Hebrew as
>  well.
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> Another thing to keep in mind is that Arabs, even the non-Ishmaelite ones 
> were descendants of Eber as well, so technically they were "Hebrews" as well 
> if we are to accept that etymology of the word. Although in my opinion the 
> word Hebrew does not come from this person's name, but from the verb in both 
> Arabic and Hebrew (and most other Semitic languages) ayin-baa-raa which means 
> to "cross over". As the Hebrews were the desert nomads (Arabs if you will) 
> that "crossed over" into Canaan/Egypt and settled there, out of the original 
> bedouin homeland of the Semitic peoples in the Arabian peninsula.
> 
> Regards,
> Abu Rashid.
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> abic
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