guys, can anybody help me with a christian linguist, i need his/ her help
(guidance)to write a linguistic course paper - using the Bible in the work.
thanks
--- In [email protected], Eileen Herbert / Eliora Bat-Tziyon
<punman...@...> wrote:
>
> My responsibility as a forum moderator is follow the forum purpose and to
> EDIT statements that mislead such as the one here. Now that you have corected
> yourself my responsibilities are met.
>
> In the future please take note of this forum's purpose:
>
> The purpose of this forum is to discuss the origins, evolution and
> definitions of the Ancient Hebrew alphabet and language as well as the
> culture of the Ancient Hebrews which is closely tied to their language. Posts
> shall be Related to the topics mentioned above and free from personal attacks
> and offensive language or content. Thank you.
>
> Rich
> AHRC
> __________________________________________________________________
>
>
> Rich,
>
> When you change / edit what members have written in the body of a message to
> this group,
>
> as you did with mine below,
> could you please mark the parts you changed, with a note that it has been
> edited
> by you,
> so we know who has written which parts of the message?
>
> Thank you for posting my original message intact first.
>
> RE: When i I was refering to the House of Judah,
> that includes the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and half of Levi.
> Which has existed and continues to exists
> since after the reign of David haMelekh, King David,
> when the formerly united Nation of Israel split
> into the two Houses:
> House of Israel and House of Judah.
> The House of Israel rebelled and took the rest of the tribes;
> and has also been known in the Tanakh as "Ephraim" and also known as "the
> Lost
> 10 Tribes".
>
> If this was unknown to anyone on this group, please accept my apologies. Is
> this
> beyond the scope of this group's allowed discussion? At what point was
> Ancient
> Hebrew language and culture no longer part of the history of Israel? In
> Ester,
> the Jews (House of Judah) still had their own language and script, distinct
> from
> all the other cultures and languages of the Persian empire. (Most of the
> known
> world). This was after the Babylonian exile, about 470 BCE. see Ester 8:9
>
> Are these discussions to be limited to the written Torah?
> the whole Tanakh?
>
> Until Larry and momlovesgod had shared their personal beliefs,
> I was not aware of any members' personal beliefs within this group.
> nor that some personal beliefs are offensive to other members of this group.
> I thank you both of sharing.
>
> Please accept that I do not intend to attack nor offend any person, belief or
> culture.
>
> Nor to "force" any belief.
>
> I'm interesrted in absolute truth, as revealed by YHUH in the Torah, Tanakh.
> For personal reasons: how Torah applies to my life, the lives of my family,
> how
> I live and relate to YHUH and to people in this world and lifetime. This is
> how my personal beliefs are formed and rooted in Torah.
>
>
> Eileen Herbert Eliora Bat-TziyonÂ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 11:30:22 AM
> Subject: [ancient_hebrew] Re: Tehillim 6:8 and Mattithyahu 7:23
>
> Â
> The purpose of this forum is to discuss the origins, evolution and definitions
> of the Ancient Hebrew alphabet and language as well as the culture of the
> Ancient Hebrews which is closely tied to their language. Posts shall be
> Related
> to the topics mentioned above and free from personal attacks and offensive
> language or content. Thank you.
>
> RIch AHRC
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> --- In [email protected], Eileen Herbert / Eliora Bat-Tziyon
> <punmaniac@> wrote:
> >
> > Shalom momlovesgod,
> >
> > no offense intendedÃÂ by me.
> >
> > I knowÃÂ "Christians"ÃÂ who don't accept "Jesus" as "God"
> > who reject Torah, and the Tanakh as irrelevant
> > some who hate and reject the theÃÂ "whole Christian Bible"
> >
> > Timothy's question was about Hebrew, applied in context of Torah lifestyle,
> > in
> >a
> > Jewish community.
> > Matthew was rooted in Hebrew, and quoting fromÃÂ haKetuvim.
> >
> >
> > The "Christian writings" were written by Hebrews (Sha'ul/Paul was
> aÃÂ Benjamite,
> > Matthew a Levite, Levi'im, NOT all from the House of Judah).ÃÂ Written
> >primarily
> > to Jews and Jewish communtities that included Non Jews wanting to know how
> > to
> >live written Torah.
> >
> >
> > Can Y'hoshua'sÃÂ teachings andÃÂ example of Torah life,ÃÂ and the
> > othersÃÂ in "The
> > Christian writings" ÃÂ be studied / discussedÃÂ as upholding Torah in
> > this group?
> >without any discussion as to whether or not Y'hoshua is haMashiach/ "God"?
> >
> > ÃÂ
> > Eileen HerbertÃÂ Eliora Bat-Tziyon
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "momlovesgod@" <cyberfox67@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:24:34 AM
> > Subject: [ancient_hebrew] Re: Tehillim 6:8 and Mattithyahu 7:23
> >
> > ÃÂ
> >
> > I agree with Larry. Irregardless of any Hebrew in the Christian writings,
> > that
> > is not an appropriate topic for this group. Not all members believe Yeshua
> > of
> > Nazareth to be the Messiah(as I do not) and it is highly offensive to us to
> try
> > to link the two. Yeshua was clearly an observant Jew and most likely a
> follower
> > of the school of Hillel who came before him. The Christian writings with the
> > possible exception of early copies of Matthew were written in Koine Greek.
> > --- In [email protected], Eileen Herbert / Eliora Bat-Tziyon
> > <punmaniac@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Shalom Larry,
> > >
> > > Regarding Hebrew in the New Testament,
> > > you may findÃâàDr Robert L. Lindsey's work interesting:
> > > http://www.mayimhayim.org/Hebrew%20Perspectives/JesusRabbiAndLord.htm
> > >
> > > the "New Testament" is full ofÃâàquotes and references from the
> > > Torah and
> >the
> > > Tanakh.
> > >
> > > Most of the gospels are fulfillment of prophecies from the Tanakh. And
> living
> > > examples of Torah lifestyle.
> > > Most of the "New Testament" (The letters) is a commentary on the
> > > Torah,Ãâàb
> >and
> >
> > > forÃâàbelievers in the New covenant life.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's all connected from Bereshit to Revelations. One story.
> > >
> > > Eileen HerbertÃâàEliora Bat-Tziyon
> > > Ãâ"çÃâ"øÃâ""Ãâ"ââ¬Â¢Ãâ"éÃâ"�
> > > Ãâ"çÃâ"øÃâ""Ãâ"ââ¬Â¢Ãâ"éÃâ"�
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> > > Isaiah 6:3,ÃâàThe Ultimate Song 6:3,ÃâàExodus 28:36 (1 Peter
> 2:9)ÃâàÃâÃÂ
> > > "They preached with joyful urgency that life can be radically
> > > different... "
> > > Mark 6:12 MSGÃâÃÂ
> > > http://www.cafemom.com/home/EileenMomGranny
> > > http://www.myspace.com/eileen_mom_grannyÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâÃÂ
> > > http://www.livinginblackandwhite.com/profile/ElioraBatTziyon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Shomron <shomron@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 8:25:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ancient_hebrew] Tehillim 6:8 and Mattithyahu 7:23
> > >
> > > ÃâÃÂ
> > > Please do not send me any more New Testament crap, it was not written in
> >Hebrew
> > >
> > > and has nothing to do with this group
> > > Larry Rynearson
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Timothy N. <timothyn03@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Timothy N. <timothyn03@>
> > > >Subject: [ancient_hebrew] Tehillim 6:8 and Mattithyahu 7:23
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 12:43 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >ÃâÃÂ
> > > >
> > > >Could anyone be so kind to advise the original Hebrew scroll about
> > > >Tehillim
> > > 6:8?
> > > >
> > > >The reason to ask thisÃâàis thisÃâàverse is quoted by our
> > > >Master
> >Ãâ"ââ¢Ãâ""Ãâ"ââ¬Â¢Ãâ"éÃâ"âat
> > >Mattithyahu
> > >
> > > >7:23 and many versions translated as "wicked" and those versions have
> > > >only
> > > >printed as "wicked" not "lawless".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >It should be the "lawless"?
> > > >
> > > >Tehillim 6:8
> > > >8Depart from me, all you workers of wickedness;
> > > >
> > > >Mattithyahu 7:23 (The Scriptures)
> > > >23âââ¬Ã
"And Ãâàthen ÃâàI Ãâàshall
> > > >Ãâàdeclare Ãâàto Ãâàthem,
> >Ãâàâââ¬ÃÅ"I never knew you,
> > >depart from Me,
> > >
> > > >you who work lawlessness!âââ‰â¢
> > > >ÃâÃÂ
> > > >Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
