Thanks Fabor. Seems we are in the same boat, preferring vi and command
line for Java programming. I think my experience in Smalltalk is both
beneficial and detrimental to learning Eclipse. While I know Java,
(and have done Brew and J2ME) Eclipse is only a bit like Smalltalk
class browsers and Java certainly ain't Smalltalk!

I appreciate your reply!

brad

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Faber Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Brad Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm beginning to investigate the android development env and see that
>> Eclipse is heavily promoted for both editing and debugging. How
>> integrated, or how important, is the use of Eclipse for android
>> development?
>
> Unless you are well-versed in Java, XML, ANT and how this platform
> integrates the above with resources and how tightly integrated all these
> parts are, I'd say you would be a fool not to use Eclipse.
>
> If you're familiar with Java ME or BREW, it might not be as painful for you.
>
>> Will I be losing out by using another editor (I use vi)?
>
> I'm a vi(m) guy and I m loving Eclipse.  I do screw up switching back and
> forth between them (some things are just better in vi(m)) but I've gotten
> used to it.
>
> There are vi bindings for Eclipse, but I've not installed it yet.
>
>>
>> And what about debugging?
>
> It's awesome.  While the Perl debugger is very capable, I never realized how
> much I missed a GUI debugger.  There's also a scary looking hardware
> debugger thingie call DDMS (IIRC) that looks pretty powerful but I've not
> needed to use it yet.
>
> And the Google App Engine plugin makes debugging GAE apps a breeze (no more
> print statements scattered through your web app).
>
>>
>>  Those using Eclipse, how well did you adapt to Eclipse
>> and the android plugin?
>
> I am a hard-core command line guy. I have come to love Eclipse.  I would
> have never been able to tackle and Android app without it; the plugin takes
> care of much of the drudgery work so you can get to learning the framework
> (which is a major chore in and of itself).
>
> Use the Eclipse and the Android plugin.  you can always go back to vi later
> if it suits you, but I don't think it will.
>
> --
>
> Faber Fedor
> Cloud Computing New Jersey
> http://cloudcomputingnj.com
>
>
> >
>



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