Well put Ram. But god, I hope you're wrong.
Of all the last minute fixes I could put in before the deadline in a
few hours, this is the one that would pain me the most. Not because
it's complicated, but because it makes no sense.

Also, think of all the contestants that read the documentation but
aren't following this forum. Heck, think of the contestants that were
following the forum, but submitted their apps a month ago and have
moved on. This late-breaking demo-killing rule is not fair for them.

I really want to hear from Google on this again. Come on Dan - the
clock is ticking.


On Apr 13, 8:34 pm, Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi androider, I agree with you and ....made a similar request 
> inhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa...
>
> Android documentation explictly suggests creating new mock geodb and
> kml/properties files .....and it obviously makes little sense for any
> demo app to use the standard geodb file (which only includes one non-
> business location (the white house) and one business (Zachary's
> Pizza).
>
> Using Android's geocoder class, location provider (with custom mock
> kml/properties and geodb files) is definitely a more "android way" of
> doing things than writing and using a new UserGeoCoder class and
> UserLocation class (with hardcoded data)
>
>     >I, for one, am going to submit with some files to be pushed
>
> I think this is unnecessarily risky.
> While the refusal to use "adb push" for kml/properties and geodb files
> makes little sense, it is also true that we don't get to make the
> rules. So I myself plan to go with the hardcoded route approach
> because that is the official Google recommendation in this thread
>
> If the judges don't run adb push .. and if your application counts on
> the new geodb or properties/kml files, your entire effort will be
> wasted. So you may want to consider taking the time to change your
> app.
>
> On Apr 13, 3:23 am, androider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dan, I really think you need to go back and revise this - talk it over
> > with the Judges or something.
>
> > I mean, keeping the emulator 'pure' by preventing adb push makes some
> > sense, but the existing gps mock track data and geodb file for mock
> > geocoding are very limited.
>
> > What's more, the Android official documentation makes it quite clear
> > that we are _supposed_ to replace or modify the geodb and track/kml
> > files to properly emulate LBS when working on LBS applications. Why
> > else does it clearly document the use of "adb push", the geodb file
> > format (http://code.google.com/android/migrating/m3-to-m5/m5-api-
> > changes.html#geo-mock) , and how to create kml files with Google Earth
> > (http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/lbs.html)
>
> > To provide all of this functionality and documentation to allow
> > developers to build a worthwhile and demonstrable application in a
> > 100% emulated environment, then hamstring us by saying (1 week before
> > the submission date, no less) that none of this support and
> > functionality can be used in the competition entry makes no sense at
> > all. I suspect there's a misunderstanding here - and I, for one, am
> > going to submit with some files to be pushed, as I suspect are many
> > others. It makes no sense to do it any other way.
>
> > > On Apr 8, 4:28 pm, "Dan Morrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > This is definitely the way to go.  Judges will not be able to use 'adb 
> > > > push'
> > > > to install content files.
> > > > One technique that may be helpful is to store the content file as a raw
> > > > resource, and then access it and write it to the sdcard upon first run.
>
> > > > - Dan
>
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Kornelius Tuggerson <
>
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I was worried about adb-pushing locations to the emulator too, but
> > > > > then I decided that it would be better to hard-code a couple of them
> > > > > and then document that in the read me file.
>
> > > > > On Apr 8, 10:32 am, Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, can you please address the adb-push question.
>
> > > > > > adb-pushing the content files will be a prerequisite for my app and
> > > > > > I'd like to confirm that judges will be able to do this step.
>
> > > > > > On Apr 7, 4:56 pm, Ram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi, can someone from Google please answer the question below.
>
> > > > > > > Is it reasonable to expect that all judges will know how to run 
> > > > > > > adb
> > > > > > > push to install content files (e.g. geodb for geocoding, kml and
> > > > > > > properties file for locationProvider etc.) ?
>
> > > > > > > I just started learning/writing the geocoding code yesterday and 
> > > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > to complete a small app this week.
> > > > > > > So an early response will be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > I don't yet have an answer on my GmmGeocoder question ( inhttp://
> > > > > groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread...
> > > > > > > )
>
> > > > > > > However, I don't mind using the mock Geocoder functionality *if*
> > > > > > > judges will be required to adb-push the geodb file that I provide 
> > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > if this extra adb-push work won't be considered as a negative for 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > app)
>
> > > > > > > Thanks Ram- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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