Hi Incognito, thanks for the reply.  My submission *does* need an
additional executable to be installed *besides* the .apk which is what
concerns me.  I hope you're right but part of the beauty of my app
(IMHO of course) is how easily it handles doing something with a
handheld which up until now has been a pain in the rear!  "Dumbing
down" the process for accomplishing this for a non-tech user was a big
portion of my idea.

thanks,
  Adam

On Apr 23, 3:47 pm, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see why they should eliminate you. From what I read above you
> provided an easy way to install apps into android. Completely valid.
>
> >>Was it documented somewhere that judges would not be a part of the
> >>install process for the apps?
>
> Dan Morril was referring to those people that required complex
> installations besides just th apk. i.e, installing a ROM, or an
> executable file on the computer. This goes above and beyond just
> installing an apk. However, if what you provided is an apk that then
> allows you to search and find more applications and install them with
> ease then you should be ok. Even if you provided a link to a website
> that allows a user to do this I still think you are OK although
> borderline.
>
> No, I don't think you will be eliminated.
>
> On Apr 23, 3:36 pm, Adam S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
>
> > Please note that this reply is NOT meant to be inflammatory, so please
> > don't take it as such.
>
> > Perhaps you guys (Google, OHA) didn't completely think this one
> > through.  You wanted developers to create applications for the Android
> > platform that would differentiate it from the other mobile platforms.
> > However, did you ever consider that such differentiation could come
> > about via the development of software designed to support a mobile
> > Android device that doesn't actually run on that device?  What if part
> > of the differentiation, and the draw for an application, comes from
> > its ease of installation versus existing mechanisms for doing the same
> > thing on other platforms?  I know that this sounds kind of vague but
> > it's a very important point.  For a concrete example of what I'm
> > talking about please check out my submission (it will be under Adam
> > Spencer).  There is a flash video at my site (referred to via the
> > documentation for my submission) that demonstrates my point much more
> > clearly.   The reason I'm not giving the site out here (in a public
> > forum) is because it's only meant for ADC judges at the moment.
>
> > The reason why I want you to check it out is because I believe that a
> > huge part of the "public appeal" of my app is the simplicity for the
> > end (non-technical) user in regard to using it - which includes
> > installation.  However, this is something that can only really be
> > appreciated by a judge actually walking through the install process.
> > You wanted us to think out of the box for this contest, I did ... and
> > now I kind of feel like before the judging even really gets started
> > I've been punished for it.
>
> > Was it documented somewhere that judges would not be a part of the
> > install process for the apps?  If it was then I missed it.  If not,
> > then you just eliminated some segment of your submitted applications
> > based on criteria that weren't previously disseminated.  Sure, maybe
> > that segment is small but those could be some of the best apps!
>
> > regards,
> >   Adam
>
> > On Apr 8, 11:08 am, "Dan Morrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi, Mark!
> > > Each application will be tested separately in a clean installation of the
> > > emulator (i.e. using the -wipe-data option.)  Judges will not be able to
> > > install pre-requisite or dependency .apk files.
>
> > > You should definitely package your application (including all platform
> > > components) into a single .apk file, one for each submission.
>
> > > - Dan
>
> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:26 AM, whitemice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > >>...we will test all of the submissions to make sure that they actually
> > > > run on the version of the emulator specified in the submission
> > > > application...<<
> > > > [The Android Developer Challenge Judging Process]
>
> > > > I have made an "application platform" and will be submitting a number
> > > > of separate entry's that require this to be previously installed on
> > > > the emulator in order to run.  I.e. install executable (a) then
> > > > install executable (b).
>
> > > > If you try and first install executable (b) it will show a "helpful"
> > > > error message saying you need to first download executable (a) from a
> > > > website.  I will include this file as part of the documentation ZIP,
> > > > as well as document the installation process the readme file.
>
> > > > Is it likely that some of my non-standalone applications be rejected
> > > > out of hand (i.e. by the poor guy who has to test each of the
> > > > thousands of buggy submissions)?
>
> > > > Regards
> > > > Mark- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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