I think some of the specifics of this have already been mentioned
in this group, of which I have been a listener for some time.
Do a search for the MIT chatter on this group.  And one or all
of the other groups for info on device manufacturers and other
stakeholders.  Correlate that with Google/Yahoo searches
on those named.

I am suggesting that support for the challenge population
stopped as evidenced by lack of substantive responses
by Google moderators to specific questions after an albeit
fuzzy line of demarcation that occurred after the last SDK release.

I am also suggesting that no device manufacturer got Android
running on their hardware without free access to the source,
which we did not have.

/GW

On May 6, 8:05 pm, Incognito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >2)  Google discontinued support for the Challenge users
> >while continuing to support OHA and other stakeholders
> >(e.g., device manufacturers, MIT) thereby marginalizing/
> >under supporting the Challenge members.
>
> Can you please give an example, source?
>
> On May 6, 10:38 pm, Google Watch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is the Android Challenge legit or an elaborate form of phishing,
> > or even an outright scam of sorts?
>
> > It seems that the challenge has a few glaring problems:
> > 1)  The rules favor teams and/or individuals with financial
> > backing or resources.
>
> > The Challenge is scored in 4 areas. I suggest that Originality
> > and Indispensibility are areas that favor contributors equally
> > whether they are poor individuals or well funded teams.
> > However "Effective Use of the Android Platform" and
> > "Polish and Appeal" penalize those with limited financial
> > resources.  These qualities require more time to implement
> > thereby favoring those who could spend more time on the
> > challenge than those who responded to the challenge
> > in the "Willy Wonka" spirit (believing all had a chance)
> > and had to work on the challenge in their spare time.
>
> > 2)  Google discontinued support for the Challenge users
> > while continuing to support OHA and other stakeholders
> > (e.g., device manufacturers, MIT) thereby marginalizing/
> > under supporting the Challenge members.
>
> > Using the Android platform, which
> > despite being Linux and Java, is no picnic or walk in the park.
> > The processing model is *different* (and I'll question it's necessity
> > on a Linux platform in another post), the SDK has bugs, the
> > documentation has inconsistencies (e.g., look at the various
> > places where TableLayout and table row are documented),
> > pieces of the SDK were missing (e.g., BT, etc.) and so on.
> > And while independents were toiling away trying to slog through
> > the Android'isms and bugs, Google was actively supporting members
> > of the OHA (are they really on the same SDK version as we are?)
> > Are all submitters *really* isolated from those who had more
> > inside information?  Access to the source?
>
> > 3)  Participants who fail to win in round 1 stand to lose even more.
>
> > When you made your submission you agreed that if Google
> > or any of the Judges developed your idea you had no recourse.
> > What if Google/Judges never had the idea before you submitted it?
> > Had not yet visualized it on the Android platform before the
> > entries were submitted?  Do you think you can get your idea to
> > market faster than the multi-billion dollar Google juggernaut?
> > In it's most perverse form isn't it all really a way for Google
> > to potentially get 1700+ original ideas for which they only
> > need to pay for 50?
>
> > /GW
>
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