Let not be angry that China is blocking Google, getting angry wont help in this case ... this is just about understand the specifics of what is going on. For those of us living in China we are all very aware of the general blocking/filtering that has been going on for a very long time. This is nothing new and for the most part is related to political issues.
Google does not need to take on the government or figure out some way to bypass the GFW, that would of course be pointless, but as we know Google has made every effort to comply with the government request and thats why Google search and Gmail (web based) works fine here. If they didnt work or were being blocked all the time, many people would switch to bing and hotmail to avoid the hassle or using vpns all the time. Now in the case of sync with Android its a very different situation, so again .... this blocking is new and only started since the 60th anniversary celebrations .... this blocking effects specifically Gmail on the Android device but leaves it accessible on the web (meaning is targeting Android) .... this blocking stops access to the market app downloads (again specifically targeting Android). If the market is the problem, google can very easily filter it, so what is the problem? In the past when google has been blocked, ie search and gmail, they have issued statements explaining why ... even if the reasons seemed unjustified, like the crackdown on porn, google went as far as to issue public statements and expressed a desire to resolve the issues and reinstate the services effected. This is because it values the market over here. Considering the mobile market size over here and the recent articles I have been reading on China Mobiles use of Android, I am wondering if the blocking is being done by the government or by China mobile or for some other currently undisclosed reason. Whatever the reason might be its unlikely that google does not care and I simply want to know what the future holds for Android in China. If the blocking is a permanent feature, then its important for me and others out here to know this and it would certainly help if we knew why. Thanks! On Nov 29, 9:19 am, Michael (许晖) <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:18 PM, shimsim <[email protected]> wrote: > > Like I said in the post, it's blocked 90% of the time, not all the > > time, which makes it even stranger. > > > The strangest things though is just how quiet Google is being about > > this, actually less open that the GFW! > > I can not understand more why you get so angry. Everybody should get angry > about blocking from GFW. > But well, what do you expect Google to do about this? China gov never admit > the existence of GFW. If Google explains to the public that services used by > Android are blocked by GFW by China gov, it's definitely against China gov. > If Google builds some way to by pass GFW, it's against China gov too since > they actually DO operate GFW. So no matter what Google would do, they would > piss off China gov and get kicked out of China. Can you imagine a company > fight against the biggest government in the world? So obvious ending it > would have. This is China I have to say. > > Someone please shed some light on whats going on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > On Nov 25, 12:06 pm, Jie Hong <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I can understandChinaGov blocks Google sync service. > > > The real strange thing is there are always a few hours sync service > > > can work everyday, > > > can anyone explain this? > > > > On 11月25日, 上午8时48分, shimsim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well I can safely say the blocking is back in GZ, as of last night no > > > > more sync. I was actually thinking how the timing of this problem as > > > > matched the launch of the iPhone inChina... makes you wonder ... > > > > > The only thing worse than the GFW is any lack of explanation from > > > > Google ... thanks Google for being open about this problem. > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > The proud owner of an Android phone that became useless > > > > > On Nov 22, 1:01 pm, Evan JIANG <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I was at Shenzhen last week. It is strange that the google sync > > > > > doesn't work in Shenzhen, but it works perfectly in Beijing. I hadn't > > > > > modified any settings. And in Beijing, both CNC network and CMCC APN > > > > > work fine. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM, shimsim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi westmeadboy, i just tried accessing the google sync page from > > the > > > > > > link you posted and it works fine on my G1 both on WiFi and using > > > > > >ChinaMobile APN, so maybe its a regional issue too. I'm located in > > > > > > GZ. > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I am happy to use this topic for everyone to > > post > > > > > > their current experiencing with the issues with Android inChina, I > > > > > > just want to keep pushing for some official answers too. More posts > > > > > > please, lets keep the momentum here! > > > > > > > Ironically the day after starting this post everything has been > > > > > > working fine but as Hong mentioned, its probably just because > > > > > > President Obama is in town, so things may go back to being blocked > > > > > > soon. > > > > > > > Any comment Google? > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 4:13 pm, westmeadboy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Well, I cannot access: > >http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html. > > > > > >> Can you (without a VPN)? > > > > > > >> I know you just want answers, but I think it would help to clarify > > the > > > > > >> problem/symptoms too. How is that some people (you) can log on but > > > > > >> others (me) can't? > > > > > > >> You might also want to try: > > >http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/label?lid=7dc8a5... > > > > > > >> On Nov 20, 2:23 pm, shimsim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > It has been working for me almost perfectly the last 3 days, but > > > > > >> > twitter and facebook are still blocked, so maybe they are just > > working > > > > > >> > wherever President Obama is, either way I have a a PPTP VPN > > setup but > > > > > >> > thats not the point here ....... > > > > > > >> > Getting back to the original question ...... can someone from > > GOOGLE > > > > > >> > or ANDROID speak up and let us know whats going on ..... PLEASE! > > some > > > > > >> > official reason why and whats going to happen in the long term. > > It's > > > > > >> > kind of important, this isnt social networking we are talking > > about, > > > > > >> > its mail and market and its potentially making Android useless > > in > > > > > >> >China. > > > > > > >> > If this is the wrong place to be posting this question then feel > > free > > > > > >> > to suggest a more appropriate place, but at least respond. > > > > > > >> > thanks! > > > > > > >> > On Nov 20, 12:54 pm, westmeadboy <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > On Nov 19, 4:53 pm, Gmail addictor <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > The sync works again! Market also became accessible! WoooW~~ > > YEAH! > > > > > > >> > > Still not working for me - I can't get past the "Set up your > > Google > > > > > >> > > account" wizard. > > > > > > >> > > I've tried clearing caches of numerous google/htc apps, but > > still no > > > > > >> > > joy... > > > > > > >> > > Can anyone else confirm its working in mainlandchina? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]<android-developers%2Bunsubs > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-隐藏被引用文字<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-%E9%9A%90%E8%...>- > > > > > - 显示引用的文字 - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<android-developers%2Bunsubs > > [email protected]> > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > -- > Michael Xu (许晖) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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