?Huh? You're saying my menu option should be BLANK except for the
checkbox if not locked???

I'm sure I'm misreading you.

I do get your point about "present the state on the screen and the
actions in the context". That's a nice statement of the argument for
presenting the menu as a verb.

And I'm inclined to agree. It just feels like going against the
platform, and I'd like to understand why and when it's appropriate. I
do value consistency in UI.

On Feb 26, 2:16 pm, "Nick Owens" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob:
>
> The text next to the option should say "Locked" if locked and nothing if
> otherwise.  A long-click should bring up the appropriate option for "Lock"
> or "Unlock", depending on the current state.  Only one options needs to be
> presented.  Present the state on the screen and the actions in the context -
> in my experience, that has the most consistency across all software.
>
> I think you're too deep into the analysis on this one and need to take a
> step back - sometimes that happens when we stare at something too long.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick Owens
> VP, ThreeClix
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
>
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Kerns
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:11 PM
> To: Android Developers
> Subject: [android-developers] Usability: State vs Verb
>
> My business partner and I have a small disagreement, and I'm trying to
> figure out the best way to resolve it.
>
> First, I should say I started out his way, and switched after
> reviewing a lot of applications.
>
> The background is this -- we have an app, with some controls which can
> be locked. A lock/unlock icon is put next to the lockable controls.
> You can long-click the icon, and it brings up a context menu with
> several items, including the item for the lock state.
>
> Currently, it brings up a "Locked  [X]" or "Locked [ ]" item -- that
> is, a menu item with a checkbox that can be checked or unchecked, and
> the lock state is changed accordingly.
>
> He would like me to change it to reflect the action being taken. I.e.
> the menu item would say "Lock" if it is currently unlocked, and
> "Unlock" if it is currently locked.
>
> It would be acting as a toggle in either case; the only difference is
> how it is presented to the user.
>
> I see arguments both ways:
>
> * Consistency with platform standards suggests the checkbox.
> * This feels more active than the usual "change the state of a
> preference flag".
>
> Locking has implications beyond this application -- and is a major
> motivation for the application, in fact.
>
> Note that both he and I independently thought at first glance it
> should be 'Lock/Unlock'. I need to weigh this apparent intuition
> against platform-wide practice and user expectations.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions? Or alternatives I perhaps
> haven't considered?
>
> Thanks.
>
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