"they have little to do with Java the 'language"

True.  MS tripped over one of my Java-related patents when they were
building .NET.  Generally these patents will relate to implementation
details, and will not effectively prevent the use of Java as a
language.

On Aug 20, 10:01 pm, gosh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Its true that if you look at the topics of the 7 patent Oracle cites:
>
> 1. Protection Domains to Provide Security in A Computer System
> 2. Controlling Access to a Resource
> 3. Method and Apparatus for Preprocessing and Packaging Class Files
> 4. System and Method for Dynamic Preloading of Classes Through Memory
> Space Cloning of a Master Runtime System Process
> 5. Method and Apparatus for Resolving Data References in Generate Code
> 6. Interpreting Functions Utilizing a Hybrid of Virtual and Native
> Machine Instructions
> 7. Method and System for Static Initialization
>
> they have little to do with Java the 'language' - after all it is
> simply an ape of C/C++ leaving out the hard/error-attracting bits.
> These topics are largely clustered around the dynamic invocation of
> classes from object 'fingerprints' (data and method signatures) coming
> from, or stored elsewhere. Apart from C++ being all over this
> territory, there is 'a hill' of prior art there too:
>
> * even I have prior art invocating objects dynamically from JSON-like
> tree structures back in the early 1990s (in a dynamic system called
> SlimWinX I wrote for small devices).
> * NeXT Inc (now a part of Apple) was all over this territory long ago
> too.
> * the Blackboard systems based around the Linda language (e.g. Sun's
> JavaSpaces and IBM's TSpaces are just recent implementations of
> Blackboard systems) were all over this area back in the 1970s.
> ... as they say "There's nothing new under the Sun."
>
> i.e. the cited patents have little to do with Java as a language or
> about pseudo-code running in virtual machines, so the mention of
> 'Java' so prominently is probably about 'justification' ("we spent
> $5.8 billion on this stuff!") and 'popularity' wrt grabbing a
> headline.
>
> The technical territory of the cited patents has more to do with what
> one can do with the Go language and distributed databases, and
> datastores in HTML5, than with Java. i.e. GO running against a virtual
> machine, rather than Java 'the language' and the JVM. If you look at
> SAPs very recent roadmap of what they plan to do with the newly
> acquired Sybase - that would raise a home-territory fear in Oracle
> regarding the use of Android devices as the popular client-side
> interface of SAPs new strategy forward - and little to do with Android
> itself.

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