Well, we disagree. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brad Gies <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I would argue the opposite :) > > One of the handiest features of Windows Firewall is that you have the > option of "Displaying a notification" when it blocks a program, and when the > dialog shows up, you have the option of granting that program access, and > then it never bothers you again. > > I do agree that the way it was done in Vista was absolutely horrible... but > a one time "Let this program do this" works VERY WELL, and I think it gets > around all the problems you mentioned. > > In my opinion, the lack of this is the single most obvious failing in > Android. > > > Brad. > > > > > On 27/08/2010 5:36 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > >> I think there is enough evidence that asking permission at time of need >> doesn't generally work -- see the MIDP experience, Windows Vista/7 security, >> etc. There is a fundamental problem that at the point you ask the >> permission, the user is wanting to accomplish some task at hand, and all you >> are doing is bugging them. >> >> And it gets much worse when you consider applications being able to run in >> the background. Do permission requests pop up on users from the background? >> Does a notification get posted that they respond (or not respond) to at >> their leisure? >> >> If you have a wall of permissions, the first thing I would suggest is >> looking at those and seeing if you can trim it down. In fact, doing things >> that make it easier for apps to make use of lots of permissions are to me >> counter-productive -- it is a good thing to make lots of permission use a >> harder road. >> >> I just had a look through the apps installed on my phone, and the *vast* >> majority of them only require a couple permissions. So someone who is using >> a large number of permissions is going to stand out from what user's >> normally see, as well they should. >> >> From the platform side, we also need to avoid making it easy to have lots >> of permissions. We need to be continuing to design the platform to reduce >> the permissions that apps need. For example, the window flag to keep the >> screen on avoids the need of the power manager permission for most >> applications; we should beef up our intent interactions with the contacts >> app so applications can work with the user to select and modify applications >> through that without using permissions; etc. >> >> Sincerely, > > Brad Gies > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurb > http://bgies.com > http://bistroblurb.com > http://ihottonight.com > http://forcethetruth.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Everything in moderation, including abstinence > > Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can > change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret > Mead > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-developers%[email protected]> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer [email protected] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
