Yes.. we do... and I normally don't disagree with you :). But, in this instance.. I REALLY do.

Let me expand on why I think it is a failing, and maybe you will see where I am coming from.

I'll use the Window Firewall as an example as it is the closest example I can think of. It deals with permissions and security. This may be more of a manifestation of how I use my computer, but I think many people share this :).

Assume I have a new install of Windows. I'm not very security conscious (I'm truly not.. if you want my email accounts, I have thousands more I can switch to, so I don't care), but I set my firewall to lock down everything because I do want some security, and otherwise I'm wide open. Then I start to install my programs. At this point none of them have internet access. Then one by one I start running them. Some of them will immediately popup the "Firewall is Blocking me" dialog. No problem.... I'm still in the installation phase anyway. When that happens, if it's a program I REALLY trust, I just grant the the "Allow Always" option. If it's a program I don't have complete faith in, I only grant the "Allow Once" option, and I pull out Wire Shark before I respond and monitor what it's doing. Then when (and if) I trust it, I give it the "Allow Always" option.

Doing it that way makes me feel very secure, even though I don't have big issues with security in the first place.

I really don't think I am the only person out there that feels this way.... I think Android would benefit from this.

Now.. do you get my point of view?... I'm not asking you to agree in terms of changing how you do things... you may work differently... but I think it's a valid point of view.

The way Android does it now. I just accept whatever the program asks for because until you use it, you don't really know how it wants to use the permission. By waiting until it wants to use the permission, I can make a (slightly) more informed choice on whether to grant the permission or not, especially if I have the option of saying "YES", "YES, but monitor it", or "NO", and that makes Android not only more secure.... but communicates that security to the user in a very effective manner.

Brad.



On 27/08/2010 10:46 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote:
Well, we disagree.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brad Gies <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    I would argue the opposite :)

    One of the handiest features of Windows Firewall is that you have
    the option of "Displaying a notification" when it blocks a
    program, and when the dialog shows up, you have the option of
    granting that program access, and then it never bothers you again.

    I do agree that the way it was done in Vista was absolutely
    horrible... but a one time "Let this program do this" works VERY
    WELL, and I think it gets around all the problems you mentioned.

    In my opinion, the lack of this is the single most obvious failing
    in Android.


    Brad.

Sincerely,

Brad Gies
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