Right.

bindService returning "true" means that the call succeeded.

The connection (at least the part exposed to the application) is made later.

-- Kostya

03.11.2010 23:56, jotobjects пишет:
What I discovered was the locus of my problem is that if you call
bindService() from either Activity.onCreate() or Activity.onStart()
then bindService() will return "true" indicating the Service is bound
to the Activity BUT the Service will NOT have been constructed and the
Service onCreate() method will NOT have been called.

This is a little non-intuitive since you would think that if the
Service is bound, then service would at least exist.  But in fact it
might not even exist yet!

This result might (I'm speculating) be because the onCreate() methods
of the Activity and the Service are guaranteed to complete in their
lifecycle. So maybe Android only lets one of them run at a time?


On Nov 2, 4:57 pm, jotobjects<[email protected]>  wrote:
On Nov 2, 2:43 pm, Kostya Vasilyev<[email protected]>  wrote:

Services are a mechanism for doing tasks that take a long time (among
another things). Based on this, the result of a service doing something
is typically available after a delay, so services are asynchronous by
their nature.
Right.  Long running tasks have asynchronous results.  That's why you
put them in a Service (and run the actual tasks in a thread).



If you have a piece of code that you wish to run synchronously, just
call that code directly (remembering to avoid code that can lead to ANRs).
The only time I can see synchronous start / bind could be useful is
updating an Activity with the current state of some process managed by a
service.
Right, that's 101 as Frank said. I'm not trying to do anything
synchronously.  But what tripped me up was that I have new work for
the Service to do from time to time based on other things going on in
the application.  There is no way to actually know when the Service
exists.  So you can't reliably communicate with the Service EXCEPT via
Intents with startService (as Mark pointed out) or somehow with the
ServiceConnection by deferring communication with the servie until
after onServiceConnected(0 is called.

Some of the Local Service examples out there can lead one to believe
that the service can be used directly and that's not true.



But even this case should work pretty well, because at the time onCreate
is called (and presumable, that's where service start / bind is called),
the activity is not fully visible yet (since its content view is only
specified inside onCreate).
-- Kostya
03.11.2010 0:30, jotobjects пишет:
On Nov 2, 1:33 pm, Frank Weiss<[email protected]>    wrote:
GUI Programming 101
All GUIs I've seen use an event queue. This is one of the biggest prardigm
shifts to overcome for someone who is used to sequential, non-GUI
applications.
The Service object by definition has nothing to with GUI programming,
but you sort of have the right idea.
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