Dianne Thank you for your time in clearing up this matter. I now have
clear understanding. Again thank you.

On Jan 11, 1:11 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
> Your phrasing is confusing.
>
> The CDD *requires* that for a device to ship with Market it *must* have full
> ADB support.  This is what you use to develop applications on a device:
> install them, debug them, and everything else involved with development.
>
> Being able to install non-Market apps as a *user* (not a *developer*)
> through the UI is a completely different issue, not covered by the CDD, and
> not impacting a developer who is developing apps on their device.  You as a
> developer are perfectly capable of installing your own apps on any device
> that has Market.  You will not be able to put those apps up on a web site
> for users to download outside of Market.
>
> Also "developer phone" != "out of contract".  In fact, "developer phone" is
> a bad term to use.  Every Android phone with Market is a third party
> developer phone.  There are a few phones that allow reflashing of their
> system images, which is intended for developers of the platform itself to be
> able to replace the entire firmware with their own build.  Also these phones
> aren't only available out of contract; it is a decision that the
> manufacturer makes that is independent of how they sell it.  (Google being
> the only one I believe doing this with the Nexus phones, and both models so
> far have been available with or without contract, because they are intended
> to be great for end users as much as being a tool for platform developers.)
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development <
>
>
>
>
>
> lmor...@earthcam.com> wrote:
> > So clarify this once and for all. Unless I buy the phone as a
> > developer phone, ie out of contract, the provider doesnt not have to
> > give me access to be able to install out of market apps, ie my own
> > developed apps unless they are on the market?
>
> > On Jan 10, 10:05 pm, Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Leon Moreyn-Android Development
> > > > <lmor...@earthcam.com> wrote:
> > > > > Ok. So here is what I am trying to understand. I have an X10A from
> > > > > AT&T. I can not develop on the phone because it doesn't allow me to
> > > > > install third party none market applications.
> > > > You can still use adb to push app to the device, AFAIK.
>
> > > Yes.  Full adb support most be there for it to be compatible.  This
> > allows
> > > all of the development tools to work.
>
> > > Being able to install non-Market apps through the UI is a completely
> > > different issue, and not covered by the CDD because it is not needed for
> > > development.
>
> > > --
> > > Dianne Hackborn
> > > Android framework engineer
> > > hack...@android.com
>
> > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see
> > and
> > > answer them.
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>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
> answer them.

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