I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
wifi.
M
On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> Fi?
>
> ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> Internet Sharing?
>
> Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> any other carrier)?
>
> I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> connection).
>
> My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> connecting to the same wifi network.
>
> At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
>
> (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> one item: "APN settings".
>
> (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
>
> (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> buttons still only has APN settings.
>
> (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
>
> (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> the usual "APN settings" menu.
>
> (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> APN".
>
> That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> talked to the following support lines:
>
> - Fido technical support
> - Rogers support
> - T-Mobile's technical support
> - HTC
> - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
>
> I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
>
> I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> this, a setting that seems to work is:
>
> APN: wap.fido.ca
> Username: fido
> Password: fido
> Server: 205.151.011.011
> MCC: 302
> MNC: 37
>
> The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> "new" APN I created.
>
> So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> device without activation?
>
> Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> next?
>
> In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> another week, I have no idea what else to try.
>
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your time!
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