Interesting. I did some R&D/Simple prototype coding for a WiFi Indoor
Location Positioning System in 2001/2. I experimented with Kalman
filters as well as RBFs in order to calm down the random jumping that
occurs with indoor non-triangulated positioning. I say non-
triangulated because, in truth it wasnt, and I assumed such problems
would've disappeared had we been using Angle-of-Arrival or Time-of-
Flight methods, similiar to GPS. I'd never heard of GPS jumping or
giving inaccurate positions in the scenario of a weak signal however,
after having gone through the task of WiFi LPS, I dont doubt it, RF is
a strange place that can through some interesting curve balls at
you.

It's a hard problem to solve if it's the case that GPS could give rise
to the same issues. I'm sure with Cellular-Enhanced GPS, it becomes
more likely. However, in order to implement something like this, I
believe you would need decibal data from the GPS/Cellular Receievers
for each signal incorporated into the measurement in order to weight
each reading, I dont believe you would want to throw all readings in
any kind of a filter equally weighted. Most of the time, say when the
average Californian is driving on a busy roadway or highway, you
should be able to receive a clean signal since, in terms of an average
over distance traveled, you dont have too many tall buildings. Of
course the anecotal response to that is that the large asian cities is
where most users of these systems will probably reside however, the
truth remains that good signals shouldnt be weighted the same as
something that had poor signal quality to begin with. Although it's
been.. six years since I've looked at Kalman Filters... time to
refresh! I'm not sure if it's a problem but, It will be interesting to
see what kind of problems come up with regard to positioning
availability and accuracy! I think their will probably be a need for
hybrid systems with something like Zigbee or, a kind of ultra-
sensitive custom indoor time-of-flight/AoA system as people begin to
realize the value of Location and not only demand to be tracked but,
down to the foot, especially in heavily populated environments.. in
say 5 years?

Cheers,

Brian A.

On Dec 7, 2:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi all,
>
> so i understand that there are lots of smart people at google, so
> maybe maybe this is
> already in shipping libraries :)
>
> My guess is that the GPS data coming back from the my android is just
> raw, unmassaged
> data as it gets it from whatever chipset the T1 is using (just like
> what happens in the
> emulator :). As people I'm sure realize, GPS data is really really
> noisy, especially when
> the signal is weak, etc.
>
> I've been googling around and it seems like Kalman filters for GPS
> would be a good
> way of doing curve fitting so that outliers and other nasties would
> get smoothed out.
> Does anybody know of either this filter, or some other GPS filtering
> mechanism that
> are either available through the API's, or elsewhere?
>
> TIA, Mike

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