On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> The general modus operandi of the core Android team seems to be "we >> scratch our itches and may help scratch the itches of others that >> contribute itch-related code". > > Well except no it isn't, and that is pretty insulting.
No insult intended. I suspect it's a matter of perspective on who owns an "itch". In the absence of a way to tie changes in Android back to contributed ideas and defect reports, **by definition**, your team is scratching your own itches, because nobody can demonstrate otherwise. Those are wonderful itches, by and large. We relish all of the scratching that your team does. Lots of those itches became your itches because of various things you are seeing developers do right and wrong and the problems those developers experience. However, in the context of my post, they are still *your* itches, not necessarily the itch of any given person with an idea or a defect report, such as Jake's. Now, in theory, b.android.com is supposed to be the solution. Defect and enhancements get posted there, and they get addressed or rejected. In reality, b.android.com is a crapshoot -- out of 55 issues that I have reported, 33 are open yet unassigned, sitting in "New" status. I haven't tried hacking an export of the b.android.com database, but I suspect that my experience is not alone. That, as much as anything else, is why I made the comment that I did -- posting ideas *here* is even less likely to get results, though I am delighted to see that you responded to Jake. If contributing to b.android.com were reliable, I would not have made the comment I made. If there is a better solution for reporting issues and defects, one that is more reliable than b.android.com and where we can **see** that our itches get noticed (whether accepted or rejected), please tell me. I would love to be able to steer people like Jake to the right place for this sort of thing. > Sometimes I wonder why I spend time on these lists. Probably for the same reason that I do -- without this list and StackOverflow, Android is f*cked. Your contributions are most certainly valued. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_ Version 2.0 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
