Hi All,
Recently I have tried with another Card reader , I got this message.

MIFARE 4K card on reader
ATR : 3B 8F 80 01 80 4F 0C A0 00 00 03 06 03 00 02 00 00 00 00 69

00 02 --> Shows the *Mifare *4K

Earlier with another Card I was getting --> *3B 8A 80 01 00 31 C1 73 C8 40
00 00 90 00 90* and I read in this group that it is for emulated Card Smart
MX.
I wanted to know
(1) Can the  two Card readers produce different ATR for the same card?If
yes , Why so?
(2) Can I get the notification or any type of logs when the read /write
transaction is happening.or do I have to put the LOG messages , preferably
in the NFC framework files.
(3) Is it possible to READ(not Write ) the SE element(i.e Mifare 4k )
memory Area using the APDU(I think this is same as what others have
mentioned in this group)


Rgds,
Saurabh




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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 5:04 AM, mickae1 <[email protected]> wrote:

> theoritacally is it possible to change the chip with one that we know
> the key ? Will it be difficult to access to the chip ?
>
> On Feb 2, 7:19 am, Fernando Miguélez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Keys are used in raw communication through APDUs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:46 PM, malls <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I don't see any interface of passing the keys to open secure element in
> > > the android code. I am not sure how many people claims that you need
> google
> > > Keys to open SecureElement. May be I am missing something.
> >
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