I think they need to have an IDE can provide more in Debug and UI design.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Lew <lewbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kristopher Micinski wrote:
>
>>  Lew wrote:
>> > Kristopher Micinski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't really think that would be of any use to the Android team and
>> >> seems like kind of a time waste: I don't really see how that would
>> >> make economic sense for Google.
>> >>
>> >> Developing an IDE is extremely nontrivial, eclipse has thousands of
>> >> developers over the course of years and it still really sucks, I don't
>> >> think Google could do better without a lot of effort invested, and I
>> >> don't think it would help any of their developers (since I doubt too
>> >> many Google developers really use eclipse all that much anyway..)
>> >
>> >
>> > Based on what do you have this doubt? How many is "too many"?
>> > How much is "all that much"? Do you have statistics?
>>
>> It mostly seems to me like you're asking for statistics to try to make
>> my answer seem irrelevant, because I honestly don't see any reason why
>>
>
>
>> I (a non Google employee) would have access to financial decisions or
>> figures about the company.
>>
>
> Yet you made a statistical assertion about how Google employees use
> Eclipse.
>
> I didn't do it to make your answer seem irrelevant. I honestly want to
> know the
> basis for your statistical assertion.
>
>
>> What is "all that much?" with respect to Google eclipse usage?  It's a
>> few posts on this forum and android-platform, reinforced by Google
>> devs which has led me to believe that most Android developers (working
>> on the lower level side of things) are using emacs or some other
>> environment anyway: Eclipse doesn't really fit there as well.
>>
>
> I've talked to Google engineers who do use Eclipse for Android app
> development,
> at least. I don't have enough evidence to make any statistical assertions,
> but
> it is a data point that might tend to contradict your assertion.
>
> > But maybe I'm wrong, and people at Google actually really love eclipse
> > and would love to make it better.
> >
> > I couldn't find "too many" in my response anyway, so I'm not sure what
>
> It was here: " (since I doubt too many Google developers really use
> eclipse [sic] all that much anyway..) "
>
> you're referencing, but Eclipse has thousands of developers, depending
>> on whether or not you specify core functionality or common extensions.
>>
>> It's no doubt that Eclipse could use some work as a whole, it kills it
>> with memory, it's quite slow, and regularly breaks on commonly used
>> extensions for updated verions.  (This isn't really Google's fault,
>> building an IDE is an entire project by itself...)
>>
>
> Since Google has nothing to do with development of Eclipse, it most
> certainly is
> not "really" Google's fault.
>
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