Interesting.

Maybe it is an android bug!

What kind of traffic are you sending?  tcp?  udp?


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Goncalo Oliveira <[email protected]>wrote:

> Got the radio logs...
>
> http://pastebin.com/754wJ2jd
>
> This seems to be it
> GSM     : [GsmDCT] onReceive:
> action=com.android.internal.telephony.gprs-data-stall
>
>
> On 14 December 2012 18:25, Robert Greenwalt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 3319 is fine.  It's just the tethering code noting an interface is going
>> away.
>>
>> Can you get radio logs?  This is the system log - there are several log
>> buffers.  A bugreport (adb bugreport > mybug.txt) would get them all.  Then
>> you can match the connectivityservice dropout with what happened in the
>> radio.
>>
>> I don't think you should open a bug: this is not an android issue, but
>> rather it's a samsung issue.
>>
>> I have opened an internal issue to expand CTS to check for this - any
>> device wanting to claim to be an android device would not be allowed to do
>> such a thing in the future.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Goncalo Oliveira <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the feedback. I traced the logs from samsung with a
>>> simple app to reproduce this behavior. Same thing, 6/7 minutes and it drops.
>>> I posted the logs here: http://pastebin.com/FcPPbq3V
>>> On line 3323 you can see ConnectivityService disconnecting. What I can't
>>> understand is what's causing it. Line 3319 is suspicious as I don't have
>>> tethering on, but other than that I can't really determine what causes
>>> this. Should I open a bug for this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 December 2012 16:50, Robert Greenwalt <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible something else on the device is occasionally sending
>>>> data and reseting your window?
>>>>
>>>> I would look in the log for the timestamp of the ConnectivityChanged
>>>> broadcast and then check the radio log and see what's going on.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect there is an unsolicited data call list notification coming
>>>> from the radio showing that the data call has gone away.  Perhaps just
>>>> before that there may be something explaining why.
>>>>
>>>> You may have to contact samsung if you're sure that other devices have
>>>> longer connection times on the same carrier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Goncalo Oliveira 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply. If I send a packet every 5/6 minutes the
>>>>> connectivity is maintained yes. Only if connection is idle for longer than
>>>>> that. The weird thing is that it's not an exact timer, even though the
>>>>> average is very close. Sometimes it lasts 7 minutes, sometimes 8 or 9. I
>>>>> even saw this happening with a 4 minute interval, though very rarely. On
>>>>> the other device, I can most of the times maintain higher idle times.
>>>>> I'll try to look at the logs more carefully to see if there's
>>>>> something else. Is there anything in particular that I should look for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 December 2012 16:16, Robert Greenwalt <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Android is not supposed to do this, though there is no guarantee of
>>>>>> connectivity.  It sounds like something samsung is doing, either
>>>>>> accidentally or on purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you send a packet every 6 minutes does that keep the device from
>>>>>> pulsing connectivity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you take a bugreport - the radio log may have some indication of
>>>>>> why it's happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Goncalo Oliveira <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems that Android is dropping idle sockets when under a mobile
>>>>>>> network. Usually, no socket is kept alive for more than 7 minutes of
>>>>>>> inactivity. I am using a SIM card with a particular APN, that allows 
>>>>>>> idle
>>>>>>> sockets for at least 30 minutes - this was tested using another kind of
>>>>>>> device, also communicating with GSM, and there are no drops, so problem
>>>>>>> isn't the SIM card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After a few searches in the web, I tried a few approaches to work
>>>>>>> around this, but until now, no success. I tried using a partial wake 
>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>> after connecting, releasing only when disconnected - didn't work. Also
>>>>>>> tried using only a 2G network, as some said that changing from network 
>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>> could impact on this - same outcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After digging a bit more and by analyzing logcat, I watched that a 
>>>>>>> CONNECTIVITY_CHANGE
>>>>>>> is sent after some idle time, disabling the data transfer availability
>>>>>>> (active network is mobile, no connectivity) and another one is sent
>>>>>>> enabling it again (active network is mobile, connectivity). This cuts 
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> all live socket connections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Investigating a little bit more, I also observed that this behavior
>>>>>>> is not consistent through all Android versions, or maybe (even worse)
>>>>>>> through different hardware. Connectivity break is occurring in a
>>>>>>> Galaxy Tab 7 with Android 4.0.4. The same isn't occurring in an Unitech 
>>>>>>> TB
>>>>>>> 100 with Android 3.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know where I can get more information and/or I can work
>>>>>>> around this? I would really like to avoid sending heartbeats every 6/7
>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
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