I don't know where you get your information from, but "You're aware that
Romain Guy is the Android engineer that wrote most of the code involved,
right?" is such an absurd thing to say that I'm not even going to begin
getting into it with you.

The fact of the matter is that regardless of who HE is, you have absolutely
no idea who I AM, neither of which is even relevant. Since when does being
in the public eye automatically make someone infallible?

All I can say to all of this is let's see it. Let's see the code that
contradicts or in any way invalidates anything that I have said. It
shouldn't be difficult, it's publicly available source.

Show me one single line of code that suggests I am wrong, or even one
single line of code written by Romain Guy, just ONE LINE from ANYWHERE in
the AOSP or ANY Google product and I will be publicly retract the entirety
of my statements thus far.

It boggles my mind when so many people jump on the trash talking
band-wagon, all tripping over each other to publicly debase me and my point
of view when all I was trying to do is stand up for something that I
personally am very passionate about. I just don't understand why, when this
happens(and it does happen with some regularity), every single person that
starts freaking out and blathering on about how wrong I am fails to produce
a single shred of code or make even a cursory attempt to cite any thing
that would in any way support their contentions. I mean seriously, it's not
like we're talking about where the best coffee comes from...


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> You're aware that Romain Guy is the Android engineer that wrote most of
> the code involved, right? As such it would seem that he would be infinitely
> more familiar with how the code actually works than you are.
> Perhaps instead of "correcting" Romain, you could go over to a linux
> kernel mailing list and correct Linus Torvalds in his observations on the
> linux kernel.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 6, 2013 4:21:11 AM UTC-8, Justin Buser wrote:
>
>> I agree that people deserve respect, however I don’t feel that my
>> response was disrespectful. If I was curt it was only because I felt that
>> the situation warranted it. Furthermore, I clearly and succinctly explained
>> exactly why his response was incorrect and misleading as well as why I
>> found his answer so frustrating so I’m not really sure how to respond to
>> this. Scolding me for scolding someone seems kind of hypocritical,
>> especially when you have no point.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* android-d...@**googlegroups.com [mailto:android-d...@**
>> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *James Black
>>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:20 AM
>> *To:* android-d...@**googlegroups.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [android-developers] Convert a view (layout) to a Bitmap
>>
>>
>>
>> People deserve respect when not being nice, but if you want to attack Guy
>> I would suggest you watch him on YouTube and as mentioned, Google him.
>>
>> He helps answer questions to share from his depth of knowledge, so if you
>> factually disagree be to the point and show where he erred, without the
>> attacks.
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2012 3:19 PM, "Justin Buser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand why I keep finding different posts by you
>> about forcing  layout passes.  The View instance this person is referring
>> would never go through a layout pass, regardless of the point at which his
>> code was executed for several reasons, most notably because it's never even
>> added to the display list. Additionally, even if it *was* added to the
>> Window correctly, calling layout() would not "force the layout", you would
>> call forceLayout() for that but even that would be pointless because the
>> View doesn't have a layout assigned to it or even have anything to layout
>> in the first place.
>>
>>
>>
>> The truly aggravating thing however is the fact that neither the question
>> itself, nor the *actual* answer ever have anything to do with "forcing
>> layouts". Do you understand that when other people come across
>> invalid/irrelevant information like this and believe it (if not because you
>> claim to be a developer then simply because they don't know any better)
>> then it's no longer a forgivable case of simply being wrong about
>> something. At that point you are responsible for every adverse reaction
>> your bad information results in. Every application crash/exception
>> thrown/hour lost/dead kitten/etc... that occurs when someone tries your
>> solution and it doesn't work is on your head.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a human being you should feel morally obligated to not present
>> anything as fact unless you are 100% confident that it is indeed so. At the
>> very least you should have first hand experience as it pertains to the
>> information you are providing and if not then test / verify it before hand.
>> Although each individual  failure in this may seem relatively
>> insignificant, the aggregate result will ultimately have a negative impact
>> on our evolutionary progress as a species. As far fetched as you may find
>> this to be the vast multitude of problems that threaten our very existence
>> are at some level caused by ignorance, as such it should not be taken
>> lightly at *any* level.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 17, 2008 11:20:41 AM UTC-5, Romain Guy wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you do this in onCreate(), then the View didn't go through a layout
>> pass yet, so its size is null (0 by 0 pixels.) You need to either wait
>> for the first layout, or force the layout by calling layout() on the
>> View.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Jose Cortes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello everybody.
>> >
>> > I am working with OpenGL and Android, and I was wondering if there is
>> > any way to create a Bitmap or a Drawable using a view (layout). The
>> > purpose is to use this Bitmap as Texture for an OpenGL figure.
>> >
>> > All I have untill now is:
>> >
>> > ** I create a new view from the context and the Id.
>> >
>> > View l = new View(context);
>> >
>> > l.findViewById(R.layout.main);
>> >
>> > ** I used DrawingCache...but dont know if it is well used:
>> >
>> > l.setDrawingCacheEnabled(true)**;
>> >
>> > Bitmap bmp = l.getDrawingCache();
>> >
>> > this bmp is null...
>> >
>> >
>> > Any idea?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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